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East Fork to Allison Mine, Allison Gulch, and Heaton F trail

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: East Fork to Allison Mine, Allison Gulch, and Heaton F trail  Reply with quote

TR here
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Allison Mine Reply with quote

Nice report, nice pic's.

I need to get more sophisticated with the Maps, Profile and such on my reports.

Looks like everyone had a great time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice TR.  Nice to know that the Allison Mine area is still accessible.

I've been to the Allison several times.  Only once did I try to find the Stanley Miller Mine trail -- perhaps 17 or 18 years ago.  At the time, I could see a faint trace, just a slight diminuation in the brush.  I followed it for a while, maybe 5 minutes, but it was so overgrown that it was a continuous bushwhack, a bushwhack that required me to use a lot of force to bull my way through the interlocking bushes.  I gave up, thinking to myself, this will take days to get to the mine and it won't be much fun.  At the time, I had hoped that the trail to the Stanley-Miller would be in about the same shape as to the Allison Mine.  No such luck.  

I'm not really surprised to hear that the trail is no longer discernable at all.  I think the fact that a) the Allison is written up in Robinson's Trails of the Angeles and b) that the Allison is far more accessible than the Stanley-Miller has kept the route to the Allison open whereas the route to the Stanley-Miller is completely gone.

The Stanley-Miller is now a steep, difficult cross country land nav challenge.  How soon are you going?  Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice trip..well documented..videos too...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:

The Stanley-Miller is now a steep, difficult cross country land nav challenge. How soon are you going? Wink


I am quite tempted at making an attempt to explore that former trail, but I'll wait. First I'll try to get to Stanley Miller from the East Fork. Looks like 2 old trails head up, and I've read some stuff of people getting there (including you, I think).

That will be a backpacking trip. Heat up the east fork and camp out at one of those campgrounds around Narrows / Iron Fork (I don't know anything about them yet, have to look up), and check out the trail from there. I'll wait until the night temps heat up a little bit, then plan that trip.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Z wrote:
Hikin_Jim wrote:

The Stanley-Miller is now a steep, difficult cross country land nav challenge. How soon are you going? Wink
I am quite tempted at making an attempt to explore that former trail, but I'll wait. First I'll try to get to Stanley Miller from the East Fork. Looks like 2 old trails head up, and I've read some stuff of people getting there (including you, I think).
I think the approach from the E Fork is the best approach.  That's how I got to the mine the time I went.  I went on the northernmost trail.  I really couldn't find the trail and just went on a very steep scramble over rock and through brush.  Taking a fairly direct line, I did find the mine amidst the brush by seeing a chimney sticking out of the brush.  Finding the mine is not guaranteed.  The northernmost route is the shortest to the mine, and depending on your route, perhaps the simplest in terms of land nav.

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That will be a backpacking trip. Heat up the east fork and camp out at one of those campgrounds around Narrows / Iron Fork (I don't know anything about them yet, have to look up), and check out the trail from there. I'll wait until the night temps heat up a little bit, then plan that trip.
 There is an old trail camp that was at one time maintained by the USFS in the area of the confluence of the SG River and Iron Fork.  The flat spot is of course still there, but any maintainence is long gone.  I don't know what kind of shape it's in.  I'll try to dig out my old map that shows the location of the trail camp.  I may be able to scan it and post it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you all had a very nice trip.  Excellent TR and nice photos and video.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Congrats Joe! Reply with quote

I really like that area.  Highly recommend rapping down the canyon as an alternative.  Maybe time for you to do the traverse soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recall a stream runs near the Allison Mine? Is this possible a backpacking/ overnight destination as an out-and back? Any flat spots suitable for a comfy bivy near water?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sewellymon wrote:
i recall a stream runs near the Allison Mine? Is this possible a backpacking/ overnight destination as an out-and back? Any flat spots suitable for a comfy bivy near water?
I've camped by the Allison Mine in a flat spot near the mine.  I drank the water in the creek that runs down Allison Gulch.  It tasted a little "minerally" to me, but no big deal.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool thing about my old blog is people related to the history of these mountains still comment on it, check out this one:

"Nice article. I am the great-grandson of John James Allison who discovered the gold. My mother has the letter he sent to my great-grandmother telling her the gold discovery and how he would travel to Los Angeles to assemble the family for mining the claim. My grandfather, George Dewey Allison, worked the mine. They lost the gold vein due to a fault and never found it again.
Two weeks before my grandfather died, he told me the source of the gold in the San Gabriel River has never been found. He was thinking of that until the end. (I have two gold pans that were his)
Thanks again."
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi zed. Cool update.

You doing well? Nothing new around here! lol

Great necro-post btw
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very cool personal side of the story.  It wasn't that long ago...
I need to get the Alison Mine completed on my list.
This was an old post wonder what the trail is like now?
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