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Gooseberry Motorway (SCE Tractor Trail)

 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:05 pm    Post subject: Gooseberry Motorway (SCE Tractor Trail)  Reply with quote

Decided to take the old SCE tractor road trail up to W. Fuji from the mouth of Rubio Canyon today and on the way noticed it was appearing more washed out than usual. Just very narrow with lots of slippery scree and sand. Wasn't like this last time I went up about a month ago.

I kept encountering wash outs of increasing severity until I get to the point where the trail takes a hard left turn at Pine Canyon, and a huge chunk of the trail appears to have washed down into the canyon.

From my vantage point it was not passable to continue on. There just wasn't any clear continuation of the path without doing some very sketchy scrambling over crumbling rock. There was however a way to get down into the upper reaches of Pine Canyon, if one were so inclined to do so. But I don't think this trail is usable to get to W. Fuji at this point.

Just thought I would give you guys a heads up in case you decided to go this way.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great update. That would suck to come down that way and come across an impassable section near the bottom.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update. Is the washout here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/34.20060/-118.11957

or here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/34.20279/-118.11407

? I'm updating the map.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I did a quick jaunt back up here this morning just to verify. Didn't want to be spreading bad info on the internet.

It looks like I was mistaken. The SCE tractor trail is still navigable upwards to Lone Tree Trail. It was just that the upward heading trail is obstructed by plants, making it easy to miss. If you are going that way and don't know where the junction is its very easy to continue on the trail into Pine Canyon.

The trail is completely washed out as it continues on into Pine Canyon however. I've marked it on the map. It looks like you can slide down into the canyon and then maybe back up on the other side but its pretty technical and not safe for the average hiking crowd by any means.

This might be common knowledge to the guys on here. I think it might have been covered in another thread.

I apologize if my initial misinformation caused any concern for anyone

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That stretch of the SCE road is pretty solid and has been for nearly a century. It does however get overgrown and covered in slough. There are also ticks and rattlesnakes in there.

I don't recommend trying to follow the road to the Pine/Gooseberry Cyn crossing. To my knowledge that part is gone.

It's possible to scramble down to the streambed via one of the gullies before the cistern. I've come up to the road from the Surprise Mine. But it's not easy. Use the power lines to gauge your position in the Canyon when down below.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: SCE Tractor Road aka Old Edison Road aka Gooseberry Motorway Reply with quote

Listening to some Type O Negative while engaging in some thread necromancy Wink

I was recently doing some updates to OSM (see 34.2022,-118.1111?z=16), and found this post as a reference for the map edit in November 2015 by Dima when the Old Edison Road washed out Gooseberry Canyon crossing was removed.

So I thought in addition to updating the map, I better also set the record straight here. The after photo shown below was taken last Sunday, February 26th, 2017, and shows what used to be the sketchiest class 4 segment, now restored to a class 3, if not a class 2 path.

Also, here's a spherical image of it from a couple weeks ago.

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October 2, 2016




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February 26, 2017




The whole Gooseberry Motorway, aka SCE Tractor Road, aka Old Edison Road, from Rubio Canyon Reservoir to the west wall of Eaton Canyon is currently passable. It is flagged from the fork near the sombrero cistern (at the turnoff from the connector to the Lone Tree) all the way to the Eaton Closure Area. The firebreak up the east ridge to West Fuji is also flagged. It has had very minimal work done on brush clearance, but it is still a pretty typical overgrown firebreak scramble/bushwhack.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a pretty great historical document obtained by Paul Ayers from COLA Fire.

The Construction Notes seem to say:

Quote:
No one can make up their mind
to aband or maint; nothing being done
on it at this time, Luier 11-64

ABANDON


So this indicates the road was effectively abandoned some time before November 1964, and was officially abandoned sometime after that.









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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

too cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The work done to make this hikable is significant and it is readily accessible to most hikers. It would be a stretch to call this Class 2 so anyone who wants to check it out should not be intimidated.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: SCE Tractor Road aka Old Edison Road aka Gooseberry Moto Reply with quote

stonehillnews wrote:

Also, here's a spherical image of it from a couple weeks ago.


The spherical image is cool.   Gives the picture a greater sense of depth.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome work!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everybody Cool

David R wrote:
The work done to make this hikable is significant and it is readily accessible to most hikers. It would be a stretch to call this Class 2 so anyone who wants to check it out should not be intimidated.


Hi David, did you mean it would be a stretch to call it class 2, because it's actually a class 1?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really great trail work, and awesome find with the historical documents.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took this a few days ago and it is really nice to be able to go from Rubio to Eaton in a direct route. I appreciate all the effort that has gone into it so far. kind of closes a loop in a trail system connecting the Altadena Crest trail, up to W. Fuji, up to Muir Peak, etc.

still rough around the edges, especially over by Eaton. kind of have to worry about people wandering into the closure areas. But the view over there into the canyon is really nice.

I had cleared parts of the old SCE trail on my own about a year or two ago around the electrical towers. probably saw some of my rope work  Laughing (got the ropes btw)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, that was you who placed the ropes. Thanks for those. Yeah, I coiled them and hung them in the branches at each spot, and I recently noticed they were gone. Glad it was you who got them. Of course the one by that remaining sketchy spot is still installed. Maybe this spring I'll get that last gully sorted out. As you say, the closer you get to Eaton, the rougher things are, but with that one gully as the main exception, it's primarily brushing that's needed.
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