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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Did anyone go up Baden Powell lately  Reply with quote

If anyone has been up Baden Powell lately I would like to know the snow conditions.  Can you make it to the top without crampons or snowshoes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piggyback - is there still snow down to Vincent Gap, or has that all melted?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was up after the last storm two weekends ago.  Given the weather last week, that's almost as good as ancient history, but I figure an old report is better than none.  We headed up early Saturday 4/9.  Road from the 138 was clear all the way to the parking lot, which had about 6" of snow covering it.  Snow all the way up the mountain, but by the time we were headed down, things were starting to slush out and what was once pristine snow was already starting to show dirt and rock.  By the time we were back to the car, the lot was almost entirely melted.  We took snowshoes and crampons not knowing what conditions would be like, but the snowshoes stayed stowed the entire time.  Crampons got a workout the entire way, though I tend to err on the side of caution.  Again, that was one warm week and a half ago.  My guess is that most of the snow on the lower 2/3 of the mountain has melted by now, and the rest is on it's way out.  Seems to me that one could probably make the top "au natural" but that's only a guess based on speculation based on whim. YMMV.  If I were heading up again, I'd definitely leave the snowshoes at home but pack the crampons just in case.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Thanks muchly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: From my vantage point in Palmdale, there is still snow visible on most of the mountain.  What what condition it's in and how much I can't say, but there's still white stuff up there.  Happy hiking.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to a PCT section hiker I know who did it this past week.

a little more than half of the mtn is still covered in 1-3 ft+. The bottom 1.5 miles is patchy, then it's all snowcover the rest of the way up, with some melted off patches near the exposed areas around the summit.

That trail is usually not clear of snow to the casual hiker until mid May, sometimes later.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going up there this Sunday, hopefully it wont be too bad, My wife is going and she is not as crazy as me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: hiker goes over edge on Baden Powell Reply with quote

news reported yesterday that after the recent snow, ( sun,monday and today), that an adult hiker went over the edge on baden powell  ridge sunday morning.
no news yet,  search -rescue is ongoing. no sign of PCT hiker.

I would suggest crampons and ice axe this week end, just to be safe.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eek, thanks didnt know
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weather is looking better now.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was up there yesterday. From 8000' there is solid snow cover, but you can manage without crampons. There is a good boot track and even if you fall you won't slide into the abyss.  I also tagged Ross Mountain which is a very nice sidetrip since it does not get visited very often.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was up there yesterday and snow from 8600 to summit. Did not have crampons and wanted them coming down fron summit to 8600. A bit scetchy coming down that part of the mountain. You lose the the trail and its a scramble the last 1/2 mile.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject: On the ridge? Reply with quote

Is it possible to get up over the snow on the north face by taking the ridge?  Or is there still a cap on the whole mountain?

Or how would bushwacking under the snowline be?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of SundayI probably did a total of 50 steps up and back in the snow. No need for crampons trail runners are fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Baden-PowellBurnham Conditions Reply with quote

Great trip with great friends to tag BP and Burnham today.  We broke trail in  6"-12" of rather gooey snow from Vincent Gap to BP and onward to Burnham.  Winds were terrific from the NW at a sustained 35mph with gusts that just about knocked me over.  Spindrift was tasty as well.  Still a beautiful day!  We could see downtown LA, Catalina, Channel Is, and San Clemente.  Even the ships in Long Beach Harbor.  Very cool!
Going was relatively slow (RT 8 hours) due to inconsistencies in snowpack and wind.  Frozen slab under 6" of wet snow.  Wind scoured icy sections.  Cornices.  Thigh deep plunging into powder.  All in all, I thought the snow conditions were wonderfully setting up for some ski descents.  Smile
Crampons absolutely necessary.  Snowshoes never left our packs.
BTW, the summit register box of BP is broken and filled with snow.  Book is wet.  damn
Burnham was an anti-climatic summit but at least that's one more peak tagged for us.
Have fun out there!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Deb! Hey, this friday we are headed up there to try to get some ice. Wadayasay?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update.  I'll be heading out to that area this weekend.  How were the road conditions on the 2?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HELLA good luck with the ice, Taco!
Road conditions were fine; we had a thin layer of ice at 7AM but I'm sure it'll be clear now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any suggestions or precautions for hiking in the wind tomorrow. I plan on doing the three t,s.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got a good amount of ice, and did our own new route (WI3ish M3ish 100ft?). Not overly technical but the lower angle ice threw me off and the sketch factor was relatively high. Pics soon. Kinda beat from today's mishaps.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck yeah! Can't wait to see the pics. Going up in 7hrs, so I probably won't see them until I'm back. Looking forward to some BP winter fun finally!
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:23 pm    Post subject: Mt. Baden-Powell trail conditions? Reply with quote

I'm looking to hike to Mt. Baden Powel from Vincent Gap.

What are the trails like?
How much snow / ice?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Mt Baden Powell Conditions Reply with quote

I hiked up last weekend, 5/5.  The trail is clear to about mile 3.  There are patches of snow/ice in the shady spots after that.  It's necessary to go off trail for about .75 mile on and off to get around the ice and snow.  I hit the trail about 9 AM.  I recommend microspikes or old crampons due to mixed conditions and poles.  I made it without the spikes, but is slowed me down.  Clear the last .25 mile or so from Wally to the summit.   Softened by the time I headed down mid day.  Have fun!
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best first post ever!  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much Karen, your post was helpful !

I hiked up today, 5/12. Trail conditions have not changed much from your description.  I hit the trail at 11:00 a.m. The trail was clear until mile 3 and then there were patches of slushy snow. Needed to go off the trail to get around some of it, but it's easy to follow.  I went with just my trail runners and no poles, and I was just fine. My first time to Baden Powell , it was beautiful!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Baden Powell? Reply with quote

Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me the trail conditions for Baden Powell via Vincent Gap?  Also, how is the road coming in through Wrightwood.

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Baden Powell? Reply with quote

Logan wrote:
Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me the trail conditions for Baden Powell via Vincent Gap?  Also, how is the road coming in through Wrightwood.

Thanks,
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Here's a link to CalTrans which updates the 2.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/display.php?page=sr2

Remember though that it looks like Mountain High opened this weekend so you can expect a ton of traffic coming up from Wrightwood.  

Last year it seemed there were only a handful of days the 2 was closed between Islip and Big Pines. I was always curious about why they closed the road when snow plows were available so I asked a driver and he said it had more to do with falling rock than snow.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Baden Powell Conditions Reply with quote

Anybody been up Baden Powell from Vincent Gap lately that can comment on current trail conditions? If so, what does the ridgeline down to Ross look like? Snow/ice-free?

Thx.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Half and Half Reply with quote

I went up Friday. It was clear the first mile, patchy the second mile and 100% coverage the rest of the way. It was knee deep and higher in a lot of areas to. The southern exposed ridges and faces are pretty clear. I made the mistake of leaving my snowshoes in the trunk. Blazed up the first two miles and postholed my way through the rest of the way. It was brutal but a great workout. Followed previous snowshoes tracks up. Because of the warm weather everything was really soft and deep.







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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks bro. That's good beta.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone been up here lately?  think these is still snow here?  thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump.

Thinking of doing Baden-Powell on Sunday 4/21.  Any recent condition reports?
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Admit it, you want to see another picture of Mr Nize Gy's package.  Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, no.  My Baden-Powell plans fell through this weekend anyway.  By the time I make it there, hopefully most of the snow will be gone.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to see any packages lol, but was thinking of doing this hike from islip saddle this sunday.  should be clear by now right?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey guys one more question, is route 2 angeles crest highway closed or open?  i used to ride motorcycles up there and remberer it was closed a long time ago, then it reopened and you could go thru to wrightwood, and then it closed again (due to another landslide?)  did it ever re-open?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per the caltrans website:  http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi

SR 2  
   [IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
   IS CLOSED FROM ISLIP SADDLE TO 5 MI WEST OF BIG PINES (LOS ANGELES CO)  
- FOR THE WINTER - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

   ALL TRACTOR-SEMI TRAILER COMBINATIONS WITH 3 AXLES OR GREATER ARE  
PROHIBITED FROM THE JCT OF I 210 /IN LA CANADA-FLINTRIDGE/ TO THE
ANGELES FOREST HIGHWAY (LOS ANGELES CO) - ALTERNATE ROUTES ARE AVAILABLE
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't been up there recently. But the CalTrans website says the road is still closed between Islip Saddle and 5 miles west of Big Pines. That sounds like you might be able to reach Vincent Gap coming from Wrightwood, but don't sue me if I'm wrong.

http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.  I spoke with the ranger and the 2 is open from LA side to Islip Saddle TH, then closed to big pines as mentioned.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wrightwood forum may have the very latest or someone who could give first hand knowledge...

This is where the "Road Condition" topic is located...
http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forum/index.php/board,3.0.html
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of 19 Apr 2013 the east closure was at the gate immediately west of Vincent Gap, so you could approach from the Wrightwood side and park at V. Gap.  We went north to Pinyon Ridge, but the folks parked next to us in the lot said the didn't quite get to the top of Baden-Powell due to snow.  Said it was probably do-able, but they opted out due to the clothing & shoes they had on.

The typical winter closure is actually stated as from Islip Saddle to 5 mi west of Big Pines according to http://dot.ca.gov .... "5 mi west of Big Pines" being Caltrans-speak for Vincent Gap for some reason.

Note: The DOT website sometimes doesn't get the message right away when the road is open or closed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went up Baden Powell today from islip saddle th, pretty much snow free except for a few small patches left.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Baden-Powell Conditions... Reply with quote

Too late for original poster, but in case anyone's interested, drove Hwy 2 from the 210 to Vincent Gap Friday and climbed all the switchbacks to Baden-Powell...road was open and in great shape, and trail had just one small patch of snow, about midway between MM3 and the top, easily bypassed...
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Baden-Powell Conditions... Reply with quote

oldcoot wrote:
Too late for original poster, but in case anyone's interested, drove Hwy 2 from the 210 to Vincent Gap Friday and climbed all the switchbacks to Baden-Powell...road was open and in great shape, and trail had just one small patch of snow, about midway between MM3 and the top, easily bypassed...


Great update coot. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Quick Baden Powell Trail question Reply with quote

The short post just after Lamel Springs says 2. Is this accurate?

Thanks!
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I made a survey with a survey grade measuring wheel

the results are here

http://goo.gl/Dy7U2
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:15 am    Post subject: Baden-Powell conditions Reply with quote

I went up to Baden-Powell and friends yesterday.

The north face is still holding a lot of snow but the trail is mostly clear.  I ran into about a dozen snow/ice patches covering the trail. They get slippery after they have melted a little in late morning.  It was very cold in the early AM.  Ridgelines to Burnham and Throop are clear.


Typical snow patch on the trail


North face of Baden-Powell

TR if you want to see more photos:
http://ironhiker.blogspot.com/201...owell-mt-burnham-throop-peak.html
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:10 am    Post subject: Baden-Powell Conditions: Known Reply with quote

I'm planning on hitting Baden-Powell this Saturday. If anyone has some first-hand info on current conditions, please let me know. The latest I'm aware of is mostly based on the video from the recent rescue due to the older man who slipped on the ice and had to be rescued.

Very curious about the ridge and peak due to the recent heat wave, and then the rains from yesterday and today.

I'll of course have Snowshoes, Microspikes, Crampons and Ice Axe to be used as needed.

Hope to see you on the trail!

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Hiked the area, first half mile or so is clear with a few patches of ice, becoming more frequent until hard packed ice and snow the rest of the way. See my TR.
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