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Pacifico or Messenger Flats? No hiking required if you get a late start driving up that way.
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Both good Choices.
Pacifico from Alder Saddle is a favorite of mine. That might work, although one might have to put up with car campers on top. Hmm, no water, although there might be water at Sheep Head Spring.
Messenger Flats? That's the one over by Lightning Point in the Mt. Gleason area, yes? Haven't been over there in years. Did they ever get the water supply problem figured out? I know they had it off for a long time. I don't know of any hikes to get in except from Trail Canyon, Condor Peak, or up the old beat up trail up Pacoima Canyon. Am I missing a route? PCT goes further north, true?
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The PCT goes right through Messenger Flats - it's to the west of Gleason and is a drive up campground I think. Lightning Point is south of Gleason.
As far as water goes at either place, I know nothing but would suggest looking at the PCT water reports since both Messenger Flats and Pacifico are on the PCT.
Drive up and bring your own water, set up camp and then day hike the next 2 days.  |
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| HikeUp wrote: | The PCT goes right through Messenger Flats - it's to the west of Gleason and is a drive up campground I think. Lightning Point is south of Gleason.
As far as water goes at either place, I know nothing but would suggest looking at the PCT water reports since both Messenger Flats and Pacifico are on the PCT.
Drive up and bring your own water, set up camp and then day hike the next 2 days. |
Ah, yes, 4Jeffrey, that does have good water info. It says that Messenger has no water.
I got a little confused about my springs near Pacifico. There is no Sheep Head Spring. There is a Fountainhead Spring and a Sheep Camp Spring. Fountainhead was running as of 6/21 although it doesn't sound like it has a lot of water, and Sheep Camp was barely trickling. Still, that might work.
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I got a little confused about my springs near Pacifico. There is no Sheep Head Spring. There is a Fountainhead Spring and a Sheep Camp Spring. Fountainhead was running as of 6/21 although it doesn't sound like it has a lot of water, and Sheep Camp was barely trickling. Still, that might work. |
Fountainhead Spring would have adequate water, I've never seen it dry. Though the name is a bit of a mis-nomer
I went to Sheep Camp on 5/15/08
Sheep camp Spring is more of a wet spot, though with a shovel and a bit of work it would likely produce some usuable water
Fiddleneck Spring closer to Bare Mtn Saddle is probably just a damp spot by now
Seep near Sheep Camp Sprg
Sheep Camp Spring
Sheep Camp
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I've settled on Little Fish Fork for tonight. Thanks for all the great suggestions. I'm going to keep them in mind for the future.
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| Can't you camp anywhere in the san gabriels anyways? Even outside of the designated camp sites? I've seen tons of people camping on top of cucamonga and such |
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| Funyan005 wrote: | | Can't you camp anywhere in the san gabriels anyways? Even outside of the designated camp sites? I've seen tons of people camping on top of cucamonga and such |
Sure. Several of the places discussed above are not official trail camps. I just need a good flat spot -- and a water source. I'm really not into the whole "schlep water up 2000' vertical gain" thing. I've done enough dry camps for a life time already. One never truly appreciates water until one is on foot, parched, in the middle of a dry nowhere.
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| Ahhhh! I can totally respect that! I'm gonna be heading up for my first overnighter at Kelly's camp after reading all of Simonov's praise about it here next week, glad theres water to drink! |
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Kelly's is a good one. Enjoy.
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