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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Arisaka Type 99 Reply with quote

This is up here for interest, as I know a few of you guys like firearms. I have an Arisaka Type 99 which I believe is nearly one of the "last ditch" rifles.







-7.7x58mm (no ammo, Norma loads it)
-Has Crysanthemum intact
-Kokura Arsenal, I believe
-Does not have cleaning rod, nor a hole in the stock for it (which makes me think last ditch, at least the stock)
-Stock has a few dings but is in fantastic condition.
-No anti-aircraft sights

If anyone is interested, lemme know. Obviously this has to be taken care of elsewhere, private party transfer and DROS etc etc. Nobody should get their panties in a bunch. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not interested in that rifle, hope your sale goes well.

Actually, in CA if the longarm is over 50 years old - no FFL is required.
The seller's only responsibility is to not sell to a prohibited person.
Ask 'em; if they are not prohibited, take their cash and give them their rifle.

I'll quote DOJ.  I added bold to the applicable portion.  Every firearm over 50 years old is a curio per US Code

I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer.  Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?

Yes.  Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer.  Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the; buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements.  "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well damn. Thank you sir!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old...
I don't think it's age alone just based on reading the citation quoted above.  It looks like it must be defined in CFR, T27, Sec 178.11 and be over 50 years old.  Might want to check on that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CA DOJ doesn't have the clearest of citations.  CA put that in becasue some new weapons are listed as C&R.  Those ones are usually commeratives and often produced in very small quantity - sometimes a single serial number is listed.
All 50+ year old longguns are C&R.  It is in the US Code as so.
I know, I am a Type 03 FFL = Licensed C&R Collector.

Here is a BATFE quote on the matter, straight from their webpage
"Firearms automatically attain curio or relic (C&R) status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list."

I don't want to come off too nit picky and no offense to you HJ.
I just want to make sure everyone is clear and I show relevant info from the gobt to show

Taco is good to go.

(All orignail Garands also fit in this now as the last was made in '5Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpled wrote:
CA DOJ doesn't have the clearest of citations.  CA put that in becasue some new weapons are listed as C&R.  Those ones are usually commeratives and often produced in very small quantity - sometimes a single serial number is listed.
All 50+ year old longguns are C&R.  It is in the US Code as so.
I know, I am a Type 03 FFL = Licensed C&R Collector.

Here is a BATFE quote on the matter, straight from their webpage
"Firearms automatically attain curio or relic (C&R) status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list."

I don't want to come off too nit picky and no offense to you HJ.
I just want to make sure everyone is clear and I show relevant info from the gobt to show

Taco is good to go.

(All orignail Garands also fit in this now as the last was made in '5Cool
Gotcha.  Thanks for the update.



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