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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: SNOW - Questions, Forecasts & Reports About Snow  Reply with quote

Here's the video I put together from September 22-23, 2007. Took advantage of the snow. Fourth attempt on the Baldy Bowl, and first ascent for me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khXvuhbQfBk

I have a bunch of other videos on my site there in the San Gabriels. Warning, I tend to curse, I guess. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice vid Taco!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

Got that from MPnet!!!!! I got sick of searching for mountaineering related pics that weren't copywritten... so I chose good ol' Lando Calrissian.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: First real snowfall Reply with quote

This friday-saturday, November 30-December 1, 20-40% chance of snow, respectively.

Weather seems to be stable enough to let it stick.

Place your bets now!!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, I am looking to get out for a wuick hikeSunday morning and would love to hike in some fresh snow,

what are your plans? Baldy?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telegraph Peak area. Can't see anything outside or through cameras though, so I'm blind. Hopefully it snowed!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

http://71.116.210.254/webcam/webcam.JPG

Doesn't look like any snowfall as of 1600.... SNOW NOW!!!!

*Crushes various objects with hands out of blind rage and hatred for warm temperatures*
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want snow?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Mojarro, I really hope you're right!!!!

I just got back from a run a lil' while ago, and it started raining around 6pm... gets my hopes up.

If this works, I'm looking towards a trip up to the Baldy area. Figure I'd go (arrive, rather) around 4pm and hike up near Icehouse, going up Telegraph or something that looks good, if this ends up being good stuff.

Or monday.

Probably both. Laughing

Unless there's no snow.  Crying or Very sad

Anyone up?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Snow in the San Gabriels Reply with quote

I see we have snow in the San Gabes now. I was thinking of doing a couple peaks in the Cucamonga Wilderness this month and was wondering what you folks thought the snow would be like? I was hoping not to need snowshoes. Is it too late for that?
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From my back porch, looking at the south side of Baldy, there appears to be very very little snow. I'd say crampons might be an option, though I really doubt it. Dawson Peak also seems to have some, anything north facing etc etc.

Not likely you'll need snowshoes for awhile. We're supposed to get some snow this coming friday through saturday night, and at least on paper, it's more significant of a forecast than this past week.

Where did you plan on going? Which trails? Chances are that unless you're the first person on a certain trail, you won't need snowshoes. The other time is if you're breaking trail and going somewhere off the trail grid, as it were.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about doing Cucamonga or Ontario, maybe the weekend before Christmas.

One of these days I would like to start snow hiking, with snowshoes and/or crampons, but not without some help.  In the meantime I was hoping the dryfoot season wasn't already ending.

Another storm coming this week.  Had a hike up Mt Lowe scheduled for Saturday, and so far see no reason to postpone it.  But I guess it will be dumping more snow across the San Gabes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simonov wrote:
Had a hike up Mt Lowe scheduled for Saturday, and so far see no reason to postpone it.


Which route are you going to take to Mt. Lowe? Last Sunday I was up that way and the middle sam merrill trail (from Echo Mt. to near Inspiration Pt.) was badly rutted by mountain bikes (on the lower half) and was like an interstate for bikes. They were all courteous but there were a LOT of them. The Castle Canyon Trail on my way down was bike free and in pretty good shape. Also, there were a lot of bikes on the trail from inspiration pt. up to the east side of Mt. Lowe so perhaps the upper sam merrill trail on the west side would be a less crowded route.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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simonov wrote:
Had a hike up Mt Lowe scheduled for Saturday, and so far see no reason to postpone it.


Which route are you going to take to Mt. Lowe?


I'm going with a group, from the end of Lake Avenue.

I'm pretty used to mountain bikers from canyon hiking here in Orange County.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ontario early-on will probably be a good place for snowshoes. I think they got rid of the dead trees blocking the trail, making it a bit friendlier.
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TacoDelRio wrote:
Ontario early-on will probably be a good place for snowshoes. I think they got rid of the dead trees blocking the trail, making it a bit friendlier.


Maybe the weekend before Christmas is the one when I pop my showshoes cherry.  I'll plan on doing Ontario or Cucamonga that weekend and rent some snowshoes at REI just in case I need them.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope to have some by sometime this winter.

From my only time going up Ontario, it really felt like a good place for a snowshoe ascent. It's got great views, and is all relatively easy terrain.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI - The trail to Ontario was definitely cleared of fallen trees a while ago (except for 1 biggie you can go around), although there were a couple of small ones that came down recently. It is a nice, gently climb and probably idea for snow shoes. Maybe we'll get that snow this weekend!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Baldy Snow Level?? Reply with quote

Hi, y'all.

Anyone got any good beta on snow conditions?
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It's blue outside!!!! Laughing





Hopefully it clears up enough on Saturday to see something.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pow was so light and fluffy this weekend that snowshoes and even crampons were useless in the Gorgonio Wilderness.
The light powder wouldn't compress enough to be practical for snowshoes.



Rob's TR today indicated the same for the Backbone ..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I saw that.

I'll rent some crampons and hope for the best.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be good for crampons in +/- a week, on Ontario.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Rick K & Mt Whitney 12/1/2007 Reply with quote

Studying Rick Kent's photos of his 12/1/2007 Mt Whitney ascent, I don't see much early December snow in the Sierras.

Judging by photo time-stamps, Rick K and his team appear to have trail camped.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The heavy stuff fell more recently. http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33958&start=0
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Iron Mountain Snow? Reply with quote

I'm wondering if there is snow on Iron Mt. and, if so, how low is it? Thanks in advance for any info.
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From my house, I can see snow in some gullies on the southwest side, near Allison Gulch. There is a bit of snow on San Antonio Ridge closer to Baldy.

Conditions-wise, I'd bring crampons and poles, just in case. You might have some ice on the summit.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. That's exactly the info I was looking for.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Waiting for the Big Storm Reply with quote

The rain didn't come like it was supposed to last night.   Today, we're waiting for the big dump.  Waiting, waiting.  Wouldn't it be nice to wake up and see white San Gabriel mountain tops?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forecast seems to change constantly on this one....but its coming, getting dark now in Burbank, lite rain.....

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Spent the morning at Smith Rock, got very light rain, picked up after I left.
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Snow levels -
http://www.snowforecast.com/MtBaldy
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Thanks Cy!
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Looking from the good ol' Mt Wilson Towercam.... LOTSA SNOW DOWN LOW!!!!!

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/towercam.htm#imagetop

YAYUH!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a beautiful scene outside... amazing. I'm off to give Alpine Canyon up South Mt Hawkins a shot. Hopefully the roads are open!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Snow Conditions? Hwy 2 open? Chains? Reply with quote

Anyone been up the crest highway recently?  I'm thinking about doing some snow shoeing this Saturday at Mt. Waterman.  

The Cal Trans site http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/sr2 says the road is open to Islip Saddle -- can anyone confirm that the road is open?  They're still listing "chains required" which is hard for me to imagine this many days after a storm so I'm not sure their site is up to date.  

If you've been up, how's the snow?  I imaging melting pretty fast in the day, but hopefully there's enough to do some shoeing at Mt. Waterman?  Any snow conditions info much appreciated!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They listed the "chains or snow tires required" a while ago too.  It was a joke!  A patch of snow here and there.  I wouldn't worry about it.  I've never seen them enforce it anyway...
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I can recall one time a few years ago when they were making everyone put on chains at the ranger station at the intersection of Rte. 2 and the Angeles Forest Highway.  But conditions can't be anywhere near that bad now.  The snow stopped last Sunday!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Luciano and Alan; my thoughts exactly.

Do you guys know if they're plowing all the way to Mt. Waterman?  I know they always used to when the two ski areas were operating, but I'm not sure now.  

I guess if I encounter a snow gate near 3 points or Cloudburst Summit, we could just start hiking from there although it would be nice to get to where we can 'shoe right away.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow .. Reply with quote

Alas, the best winter for SoCal in years!

With this new system we should be topping recent records for local snowfall, at least back a few decades.

Looking forward to some awesome winter hiking, climbing, mountaineering, snowshoeing, skiig and boarding for all the local mountains.  

Just be conscious of the avalanche hazzard, don't go alone, notify people of your routes, carry a compass or gps to find your way, carry a phone and pack gear for an emergency overnight with extra outerwear to be safe.
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The I-5 has been closed over the Grapevine and even the I-15 was closed for a while ...

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TDR told me that snow fell in Monrovia and a buddy sent me a picture from his phone of snow in Santa Barbara.  


Anybody good snow reports?
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the resorts in big bear are reporting 7 inches
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the resorts in big bear are reporting 7 inches

Awesome!
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I'd wager that the San Gabriel Mountains got more snow than that because they are more in the path of this system.
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Baldy snow report:

SNOW REPORT for Friday Jan 25, 2008 update @ 5:30a.m.
We received 12" to 18" of new snow last night and it is still snowing and blowing very hard at this time.
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Following comment seen on the Mt. Wilson Cam page this morning...

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Solar observer comment posted on January 25, 2008 at 8:24 P.S.T.
Observatory weather: mixture of frozen rain and snow; fog; breezy; 31 F. At least 2 feet of snow on theground and much higher drifts.


Thursday morning (4-5 am'ish) there was a hail storm in Monrovia which could have been the source of the "snow in Monrovia" comment, but I don't know for sure.
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This is awesome!

I had a dream last night that I was in the San Gabriels with my buddies, and it cleared up after this big storm... and everything had snow except the San Gabriels! All we had were big streaks of ice from rain.

Can't wait to see the mountains through the clouds. I can see some snow through breaks lower on the mountains, that's all though.
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It is not snowing, the news is all lies Rolling Eyes . The truth is we are going to receive between 2-6 inches of rain for the rain year...according to the professionals...La Nina!

Or how about the widespread one where the snow level was going to drop to 2000 ft(now revised to 5500ft) just a few days ago....

But hey, I think this wacky start is awesome too....keep it up....then there will be snow well into the year... Very Happy
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Just bought a club card from the Mt. Baldy Resort, so hopefully the snow year will continue to be good.  Haven't got one since '05 winter.  Excited for some steep & deep resort skiing tomorrow.  I'm sure traffic will be a mess.

Can anyone in the LA area see the snow level elevation?  Must be around 3000, from the reports about the freeways.

Maybe we will get lucky and the storm will stay cold on Saturday and rain will not melt all the snow...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

406 wrote:
Can anyone in the LA area see the snow level elevation?  Must be around 3000, from the reports about the freeways.

I am in the northwest corner of Pasadena and am looking out at snow down to somewhere in the 2000-2500' range.
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