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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Wilderness Crest Trail (Cucamonga Peak)  Reply with quote

I had been planning on heading up to Cucamonga Peak this weekend, but not sure now with all the fresh snow. Anyone been up in this area over the past weekend? How much snow?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.

We went to Chapman trial and stuff. Had people saying 7 inches of snow at the saddle on the 25th. There was around 3 inches in spots on the north face of Ontario.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found some pics of Baldy on 5/25 which might give you an idea of what's on Cucamonga: http://picasaweb.google.com/hikinedd/BaldyEdd052508

Not looking good, Joseph  Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, but I'm holding out a little hope. That one guy on the SGW forum hinted at Cucamonga Wilderness losing snow quickly, gotta get more info on that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere you need a pass to do cucamonga via ice house canyon due to the cucamonga wilderness.  Is this true and where do you get one for a 5am start time
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a wilderness permit for the angeles national forest.

I dont know what time the ranger station opens up in baldy village, but you can pick one up at sports chalet near you, or just pick one up the day prior.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The permit you need for the Angeles National Forest is an Adventure Pass, which is a parking permit.  Those you can pick up at various stores, gas stations, the Baldy Ranger Station, etc.
(http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/ap/)

You do not need a Wilderness Permit for most Mt. Baldy area hikes, but you do need one to enter the Cucamonga Wilderness.  The Wilderness boundary is about halfway up the trail in Icehouse Canyon.  The 3Ts, Ontario, Bighorn, and Cucamonga Peaks are all within the Wilderness.  The permit can be picked up at the Mt. Baldy Ranger Station.  You can call ahead and arrange to have it left out for you if you plan an early start.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.  Those that live out there, is cucamonga peak doable tomorrow(sat 31st) in your best opinion without crampons.  We want to do it with poles only.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to say what the conditions are. Quite a bit of snow fell but it fell on mostly barren soil, so most of it could have melted by now. But then the trail to Cucamonga is on north facing slopes so some of the snow melt could also have re-frozen into ice. Word from the ranger station is that there could still be ice up there.

Are you not bring gear because you want to go light or because your group is not experienced in snow/ice travel? If it's the latter, I would not go unless you are okay with turning around if it is unsafe. Otherwise, hike something else and wait a few more weeks to make it a sure thing. If you do have gear then I would bring it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim,
Thank you.  It is because we are not expereinced, and we have all agreed that we have no problem turning around if it gets icy.  Its a new trail for us so it is also a chance to see something different, even if just a bit of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Cucamonga Peak on Sunday 2/21 Reply with quote

Will be carrying (actually, wearing) crampons and gaiters.

I went down to Mt Baldy visitor center and the guy there was quite evasive...

"yeah, there is snow, I think, and probably ice..."


Any info about the conditions up there?  Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Cucamonga via Ice house...snow? Reply with quote

Thinking of hauling my fat ass to the top of Cucamonga this w-e.

Do you guys have any info on snow levels from Ice house canyon onwards? Are crampons a must?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of Cucamonga taken last Sunday from Register Ridge, May 15th. Bighorn peak is in the foreground and Cucomonga behind and above Bighorn. I don't know about crampons but there sure is a lot of snow up there.

register ridge may 15 2010 (7)
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crampons seem mandatory, thanx for the pic.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The north slope of Cucamonga is pretty icy, starting at Icehouse saddle. I attempted to bag Telegraph Peak last weekend. Did not bring crampons. From what I ran into on the north side of Timber, this was a bit of a mistake, as I was flailing around trying to get solid footing on icy snow (did not help that I had lost the trail under the snow). Cucamonga would require crampons for a few more weeks at least. Especially considering that Cucamonga got a dusting of snow this past Saturday night from what I could see from my house!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, guys.

I went up on Saturday night. The throngs of tourists (!!!) were all gone and I had the trail to myself.

From Chapman to Cedar glen to the Saddle, no snow or ice whatsoever.

I tried going up the trail to Cucamonga..without crampons. Bad idea. No solid footing anywhere. I called it a day (night?) and went home.

I'll try again next w-e.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Anyone been up to Cucamonga Peak via Icehouse Canyon lately? Reply with quote

Wanting to head up soon and wondering if anyone has gone up recently and if so how the trail is.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Dude, we just don't know. This is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. Very Happy

I haven't been up there, hopefully someone can help you
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't so here's my educated guess based on having been there in similar times...

Icy in parts from being packed down, no new snow, no need for snowshoes. I would bring strap crampons and an axe.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from somewhere else

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The safest way to Cucamonga Peak is to go over Bighorn Ridge but we didn't take the trail from Ice House Saddle to Cucamonga Saddle because it did not appear anyone else had.

There was snow coverage to Bighorn Ridge at about 8,200' but most snow could be avoided from there to Cucamonga Saddle...there was not much. We climbed for Cucamonga Saddle to the 2nd switchback, where we removed our crampons and climbed the ridge to about 8,400' where crampons went back on.

For our return trip we went down the drainage to about 8,000' the cut across the slope to the trail, then climbed down to the saddle. We felt this was safer than than returning via the ridge. We should have descend to about 7,700' and climbed up to Cucamonga Saddle.

We then went up to Bighorn Peak and returned to the Ice House Trail via Compromise Canyon

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Ze and Taco.  I have gone up before but not this time of year.  I do have all my gear for ice and snow and look forward to the climb.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Cucamonga Peak from Big Tree Truck Road April 2011 Reply with quote

Planning on taking a round up Cucamonga Peak at the end of April but not via Icehouse Canyon.  I know of the route up from San Sevaine & Big Tree Truck roads but have never been.  Has anyone? and if so how was it?  I know the road taking you from Lytle Creek to Big Tree is closed from weather damage but am not sure how far it is from the gate to the trailhead.  Anyone who can give me insight on this route and current conditons I would greatly appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sangabrielmnts.myfreeforum.org/about3183.html

I'm interested in the idea too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took this route as far as Etiwanda a couple of years ago...

http://sangabrielmnts.myfreeforum.org/about1604.html&highlight=

I imagine this winter's rains have carved up the road a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the links. Anyone know how to access the gate (lytle creek)? As of now looks like park and hike from it making a extremely long day hike if not a overnighter... Either way still on the list and still plan to go end of next month-beginning of May.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the gate opens up some time in spring or summer. The ranger station in lytle creek may know.

I thought you wanted to hike up it (driving is deffinitly not doable), you could probely do it in a long day.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya after reading the reports on the road, driving it sounds pretty gnarly and sketchy if it did open. I am positive it won't be open by the time I am ready to step off on this hike so as of now that is the plan, to hike from the closed gate.  I was just curious for further exploration.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Cucamonga Peak Reply with quote

Going up Cucamonga Peak this Sunday, should be getting a nice start around 7:30. Hopefully it doesnt rain on us. Anyone else have experiance up there past Icehouse Saddle? I am sure there is still snow but how much?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Cucamonga Peak Reply with quote

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Going up Cucamonga Peak this Sunday, should be getting a nice start around 7:30. Hopefully it doesnt rain on us. Anyone else have experiance up there past Icehouse Saddle? I am sure there is still snow but how much?
9 in our party so far.

There will still be lots of snow and ice past Icehouse saddle, so make sure you have the proper footwear/equipment to traverse the route.

A young man fell to his death a week ago with his brother attempting cucamonga peak.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Cucamonga Peak Reply with quote

Illusive wrote:
lesper4 wrote:
Going up Cucamonga Peak this Sunday, should be getting a nice start around 7:30. Hopefully it doesnt rain on us. Anyone else have experiance up there past Icehouse Saddle? I am sure there is still snow but how much?
9 in our party so far.

There will still be lots of snow and ice past Icehouse saddle, so make sure you have the proper footwear/equipment to traverse the route.

A young man fell to his death a week ago with his brother attempting cucamonga peak.

Not sure what the snow/ice conditions are, but I think the death Illusive is refering to happened in Cucamonga Canyon on the south side of the mountain - not in the area you will be hiking. Unless there was another incident I don't know about.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a recent TR from Gigamike. Follow the link to his picutres and pic #52 shows the north side of Cucamonga on May 7th.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect thanks, snow does not look to bad, we will be careful after icehoseu saddle as that is the most technical part (in the snow).
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what a day. Started at the parking lot at 8 and it rained on us till we hit the sign next to the big rock. Then it was mostly snow. At the saddle it was BLOWING and the trail map sign there was frozen over 1/2" -1" thick. Headed on over to the next saddle (with only half our group now). The section by the two old mines was almost perfectly still but as soon as we hit the saddle the wind was just bruttle. Rimm ice everwhere about 1-2" thick. We turned around at the point as not everyone was perpared for the weather. The trail for the most part was in great conditions but there were a few sctions that were rather narrow from all the traversing over the winter.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Cucamonga Peak from Icehouse Canyon? Reply with quote

Would like to do the climb this weekend and am just curious of the current conditions. I have snow and ice gear however the person coming with me does not. If anyone has recently climbed it and has the word on the snow conditions I would greatly appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cucamonga Peak from Icehouse Canyon? Reply with quote

The Dude wrote:
Would like to do the climb this weekend and am just curious of the current conditions. I have snow and ice gear however the person coming with me does not. If anyone has recently climbed it and has the word on the snow conditions I would greatly appreciate it.


Also Dude, tomorrow's the 10th already.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously you're not a golfer.

I dont know the conditions, but I say go for it! There will probably be a little snow from the Big Horn/ Cucamunga saddle to the peak. We might get some snow from this coming storm, but it shouldn't last too long.

Just go for it but be ready to turn back if you see a bunch of snow on that slope above the saddle. You could always hike to Ontario, Big Horn, or Timber if you have to turn around on Cucamunga.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about doing the same thing but am begging out of Saturday because the Amgen Tour of California is riding up Baldy Rd and it's going to be a zoo with what sounds like huge access problems into Icehouse Canyon unless you get out there Friday evening.

I may go Sunday but don't know yet.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good info on Saturday....think I will reschedule.  However still curious on the conditions.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to the second saddle last sunday and although it was snowing and blowing hard it was not issue. From the looks of it the peak is doable as well but again I have tried for the peak 3 times and only made it once (straight up the ridge) the other times therew as too much snow or people in my party were not ready. I dont know how much of the trail is on the north side.

I was going to do Baden-Powell this Sunday but conditions sound worse so I may do Cucamonga instead. Going to be cold and windy and chance of rain again Sad

I will be on the mountain to watch the race though!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Cucamonga Peak conditions? Reply with quote

Anyone been to Cucamonga recently? I'm thinking of taking some newbies there soon and was wondering about snow conditions since the trail goes on the north side.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not been.

This photo shows Ontario peak from Iron Mtn on Saturday 4/28

My guess is there was likely some snow over on the way to Cucamonga. With temps in the 70's and 80's down lower it is melting fast


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Matt. Even that picture helps because it's showing the north side of Ontario and based on that, chances are in a few weeks any snow won't be an issue. But I might do a recon hike anyway and if I do, I'll report back with conditions.

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I went up six days ago; there were a few remnant snow patches in shady areas rapidly turning to slush. The deepest incautious posthole steps were not even to boot top level. Delightful trail conditions.

The increased recent trail graffiti at ICH is most disturbing (even on trees!??!!) as is the brown and green broken glass. Those colors are *not* forest camo beverage containers. grrr   But that's below the saddle. For now at least, IHS to Cucamonga peak is clear. Have a great hike, and keep your eye out for deer and bighorn, especially from the mine to the next saddle, and that west slope of that saddle.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Thank you very much arocknoid for the report. That's exactly what I was looking for, except for the sad news about the vandalism in IHC Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Trail to Cucamonga clear? Reply with quote

Hello everyone, first post on these boards but I'm a long time lurker.

I'd like to hike Cucamonga this week, and was wondering if anyone has been up the trail recently.

When I went up last year in early May there were still several snow drifts that were thigh-deep or better (including one that tried to slide off the mountain with me in it), and a nice long terrifying section of ice right where the trail turns into a six inch ledge across a near-vertical gully.

I swore I would never do the trail with snow on it again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Trail to Cucamonga clear? Reply with quote

Fargone wrote:
I'd like to hike Cucamonga this week, and was wondering if anyone has been up the trail recently.


I was up there 2.5 weeks ago and encountered only a few small snow patches on the trail. I'll bet it's all gone by now.

Easy snow obstacle on Cucamonga Peak Trail - April 4


Cucamonga Peak summit trail covered in a little snow - easily avoidable

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Has anyone hiked Cucamonga Peak from Joe Elliott Reply with quote

In the past year or two?  How does the trail compare to Mt. Baldy or Baden-Powell?
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See this post:

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"Their only motive was a great ideal; this was what linked together mountaineers so widely dissimilar in background and so diverse in character."
Maurice Herzog, Annapurna