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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

MattCav wrote:
anyone know when/if the station fire forest closures will be officially?
The press release in which they constricted the restrictions gave the impression that we were looking at another year at the least. You could probably find that link in the news section here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: ACH will open Reply with quote

I am sure that the Caltrans engineers and the contractor will have the road open soon.  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.  

Unfortunately the reporter did not include that by "some features" I am meant that the crews were still working:  removing mud, boulders, and clearing drains.  

If you ever need any additional information call me at 213-897-3630. Though, I probably couldn't answer your question about global warming.

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"Chandler said Caltrans plans to add some features to the repair work to prevent future rock slides."


The rumour kicking around the yard is that they'll move on to Global Warming once they wrap the ACH project.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

By the way, I am Patrick Chandler.


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I am sure that the Caltrans engineers and the contractor will have the road open soon.  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.  

Unfortunately the reporter did not include that by "some features" I am meant that the crews were still working:  removing mud, boulders, and clearing drains.  

If you ever need any additional information call me at 213-897-3630. Though, I probably couldn't answer your question about global warming.

obie wrote:
"Chandler said Caltrans plans to add some features to the repair work to prevent future rock slides."


The rumour kicking around the yard is that they'll move on to Global Warming once they wrap the ACH project.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

pio wrote:
By the way, I am Patrick Chandler.


pio wrote:
I am sure that the Caltrans engineers and the contractor will have the road open soon.  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.  

Unfortunately the reporter did not include that by "some features" I am meant that the crews were still working:  removing mud, boulders, and clearing drains.  

If you ever need any additional information call me at 213-897-3630. Though, I probably couldn't answer your question about global warming.

obie wrote:
"Chandler said Caltrans plans to add some features to the repair work to prevent future rock slides."


The rumour kicking around the yard is that they'll move on to Global Warming once they wrap the ACH project.
And PIO = Public Information Officer?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

pio wrote:
...  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.


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Ahhh the old unspecified "safety reasons"

Caltrans is way over paid and painfully slow doing anything, that involves actual work

If I "worked" at Caltrans I'd be ashamed to cash my pay check.

Not that it really matters since the forest is closed

The only things I have a lower opinion of is the "forest service", and child molesting priests
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

mattmaxon wrote:
pio wrote:
...  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.


[Rant]
Ahhh the old unspecified "safety reasons"

Caltrans is way over paid and painfully slow doing anything, that involves actual work

If I "worked" at Caltrans I'd be ashamed to cash my pay check.

Not that it really matters since the forest is closed

The only things I have a lower opinion of is the "forest service", and child molesting priests
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Aw, c'mon, Matt, how do you really feel?  Laughing

Let's not scare Patrick off. Wink  It might be nice to have reliable scoop from Caltrans on this site.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:

Let's not scare Patrick off. Wink  It might be nice to have reliable scoop from Caltrans on this site.


Patrick Chandler is the MAN - he tracked down the Angeles Crest page on facebook and started providing info for everyone unprompted, including his contact # so people could get the scoop straight from him.

Trying to get info from their website is like pulling teeth, so having a dude like PC show up and drop knowledge is pretty sweet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick is indeed the person that you want to talk to and get information from about Hwy 2 issues.  Not a hit on the workers, but getting info from them or a friend of a worker is not usually that accurate. Unfortunately, that's what Newcomb's Ranch and Mt. Waterman do, and when a promised date by a worker goes by, they get all worked up.

Thanks for joining us here, Patrick. I know you are one who definitely does your job, above and beyond, and deserves your paycheck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

Matt, you seem especially cranky lately. Are you upset because Howard is gone and you don't have a lap to sit on anymore?

Slamming the agency continuously on a public forum you supposedly volunteer for/with (USFS) is something I'm sure they can do without, especially if you have such low respect for them, as you stated.


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pio wrote:
...  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.


[Rant]
Ahhh the old unspecified "safety reasons"

Caltrans is way over paid and painfully slow doing anything, that involves actual work

If I "worked" at Caltrans I'd be ashamed to cash my pay check.

Not that it really matters since the forest is closed

The only things I have a lower opinion of is the "forest service", and child molesting priests
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, uh, it's gettin' a little over the top here.  I was teasin' Matt a little, but let's not start getting ugly, OK?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:
OK, uh, it's gettin' a little over the top here.
HJ


Jim, we'd all like take the high road, but it's closed for repairs right now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boooh...hissssssss
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
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Location: Now I have a quote under my name, Taco.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/l...il-spring-due-to-rain-damage.html

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“This was a rockslide area exacerbated by the heavy rains. We’re working to remove a [potential] rockslide issue there by taking out a large section of the hill,” Caltrans spokesman Patrick Chandler said. “We’re looking at keeping the road closed until spring.”

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thanks for the info although I wish it were better news.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

Safety reasons include a rock slide at Browns Canyon and a compromised slope a half mile east of Browns Canyon.  There is quite a bit of equipment and personnel on the highway.  If you would like to see pictures, pleas send me an email at patrick_chandler@dot.ca.gov.

Please do not enter the closed section of the highway or forest, as you could be cited by law enforcement.

You might have missed qutie of the coverage in the local papers including the Pasadena Star.  They took some pretty good pictures.

Additionally, Southern California received some of heavier than normal rains during the end of last year.  Burn areas in the ANF are very likely to have debris slides more than what you might have seen in the past.  Therefore the conditions in the burn area in the forest and weather could create more delays in the repairs to the highway.

If you have any other questions regarding the project, please feel free to let me know, as I am the Public Information Officer (PIO) assigned the project.  My phone number is 213-897-3630.


mattmaxon wrote:
pio wrote:
...  Proably not as soon as some would like, but the highway has remained closed for safety reasons.


[Rant]
Ahhh the old unspecified "safety reasons"

Caltrans is way over paid and painfully slow doing anything, that involves actual work

If I "worked" at Caltrans I'd be ashamed to cash my pay check.

Not that it really matters since the forest is closed

The only things I have a lower opinion of is the "forest service", and child molesting priests
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Patrick.  I'm impressed that you're really trying to get the word out.  Now if only ANF would be so diligent.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

pio wrote:
If you would like to see pictures, pleas send me an email
Any chance you could just post them here?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: ACH will open Reply with quote

davantalus wrote:
pio wrote:
If you would like to see pictures, pleas send me an email
Any chance you could just post them here?


I can't speak for the ANF, you should visit the ANF's site.  Just do a google search.  Sherri Rollman and John Wagner are the Public Affairs officers and the main phone number is one the website.

Hopefully (I stress hopefully) that everything will go as projected. Folks the USFS, USGS, and Caltrans geologists and biologists have said that the forest's recovery could take 4 or more years.  The health and stability of the forest will definitely affect the highway for quite a while.  

Please pass my information on if you can.  

Thanks for the kind words.  Please do not hesitate to call me.  213-897-3630.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: ACH closed near Buckhorn Reply with quote

I don't know why, or for how long.  Just reporting that today (Sunday 2/13) the gate was closed just past Buckhorn, near the old route down to Williamson Rock.  So you can't get to Islip Saddle.  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aargh!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the location is closer to Cedar Spring about mile marker 61.5 about 1/4 mile south of Eagles Roost Picnic


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposedly there's a slide.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Matt mentioned, It is closed at Cedar Springs, or just before Eagles Roost. There was undermining of Hwy 2 near that location, after the storms in December. Maybe Patrick can give us some info. I saw a couple picts last month, but don't have them at my disposal. It didn't look too bad, but I'm not an engineer, either. I do remember seeing a guardrail suspended in the air where the ground gave out.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Flyer for ACH closure Reply with quote

http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist07/sync/pr/sr-2%20update%2021011.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Patrick.

The repairs that I can see in the photos look good.  Looking forward to when the whole shebang opens up in the spring.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Angeles Crest Hwy via Big T on Saturday 2/26? Reply with quote

So, what do you guys think the chances are of being able to get up Angeles Crest Hwy via Big T on Saturday 2/26?  I was thinking of snow shoeing into Chilao to test some new equipment.  Think the roads'll be plowed?  This actually isn't supposed to be a big storm, just a cold one, right?

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Location: Now I have a quote under my name, Taco.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big T was closed at Stoneyvale as of yesterday at noon.  My guess would be it'll be closed today, but open tomorrow.  The big issue will be ice rather than snow.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MtnMan wrote:
As Matt mentioned, It is closed at Cedar Springs, or just before Eagles Roost. There was undermining of Hwy 2 near that location, after the storms in December. Maybe Patrick can give us some info. I saw a couple picts last month, but don't have them at my disposal. It didn't look too bad, but I'm not an engineer, either. I do remember seeing a guardrail suspended in the air where the ground gave out.


Any update on this bidness?
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Location: Now I have a quote under my name, Taco.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked about it on the ACH Facebook page.  They said they're getting funding for the repair now, and work will start in the spring when the snow is gone.   Shocked   Still closed at Cedar Springs till it's fixed.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cougarmagic wrote:
...work will start in the spring when the snow is gone.  
In other words, it's gonna be a while.  Hope it's not another "five year plan."  Yipes.

I guess this will make that back section of the 2 inaccessible again like it was when the road was only open to Islip Saddle, only this time the closure will be a few miles further west.

Anyone know how bad the slide is?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cougarmagic wrote:
I asked about it on the ACH Facebook page.  They said they're getting funding for the repair now, and work will start in the spring when the snow is gone.   Shocked   Still closed at Cedar Springs till it's fixed.


Oh that was you! I looked there right after posting here - turns out I've been barred from asking questions there. I think the guy who runs the page was upset when I asked how lobbying Sacramento would help!
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Location: Now I have a quote under my name, Taco.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh - un-friended from ACH!  haha

I don't get the idea it's a huge slide - just that there's no point sloshing through snow and getting delayed by storms, just so a few people (me!!) can hike to Mt Islip.

I will just have to sneak up on it from South Fork Camp I guess!
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I will just have to sneak up on it from South Fork Camp I guess!

Hmmm...
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HikeUp wrote:
Hmmm...


I have the weekends of 3/26, 3/27, 4/2 and 4/3 currently free for just such a hike.
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Dunno...too soon to tell.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ooh - un-friended from ACH!  haha
I don't get the idea it's a huge slide - just that there's no point sloshing through snow and getting delayed by storms, just so a few people (me!!) can hike to Mt Islip.

I will just have to sneak up on it from South Fork Camp I guess!


Yeah I wonder, I'll miss getting up to Islip if it's going to be a long closure ala the 2004-08 bridge dealio, but Buckhorn becomes way more fun when there's no through traffic!

Thanks again for the info!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where does the road close at this point? I'm looking for easy access to Throop.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's still closed at Cedar Springs just before Eagles Roost. Again, it is undermining of the road on the west side of the highway right near the gate, not a slide, per se.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Angeles Crest opening late spring --- we'll see Reply with quote

This may have been posted already.  Looks like they're trying to get her open.

http://www.lacanadaonline.com/news/tn-gnp-0512-angeles,0,3505434.story
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The closed section will be opening June 1st.

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We have been sending a lot of concrete up there the last month or so. The crew thats working is right on with ordering concrete and these guys seem to pride themselves on not wasting money. One of the last crews would throw concrete away all the time by over ordering. We have been going all the way to mile marker 53, and doing a lot of work at mile marker 28.8 I hope it keeps going as well as it has been.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no dates have been set, but sometime in June is possible. work has not even begun at Eagles Roost, which I'm hearing could take 2-4 weeks once it starts.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MtnMan wrote:
no dates have been set, but sometime in June is possible.



Aw crap. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing's changed much in quite some time, as they have kept the "late spring" wording for quite some time. No official dates have ever been posted to my knowledge. Maybe "very late spring" would be more appropriate though.  Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

June 3rd now the official date for the lower Crest re-opening. Press release next week.

However, the upper Crest at Eagles Roost may not be open for a few months, is the latest.  Confused
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: SR-2 Official Opening Reply with quote

MtnMan wrote:
June 3rd now the official date for the lower Crest re-opening. Press release next week.

However, the upper Crest at Eagles Roost may not be open for a few months, is the latest.  Confused


Yes, the highway could open June 3.  Once I receive full word that SR-2 is definitely set for public access in the lower section (La Canada Flintridge to Angeles Forest Highway), I will send out a press release to the media and invite the general public to the opening press conference.  The Eagle's Roost area could take quite sometime to repair.

You can call the Caltrans District 7 Public and Media Affairs at 213-897-3630 (my direct line).  Those seeking a heads up shouldn't call (we receive hundreds of calls weekly).  Just check the web site: www.dot.ca.gov/dist07, and follow the news.  KNX 1070 has been following the progress very closely.

- Patrick Chander, Public Information Officer, Caltrans, ACH Repair Project
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Angeles Crest opening late spring --- we'll see Reply with quote

shreddy wrote:
This may have been posted already.  Looks like they're trying to get her open.

http://www.lacanadaonline.com/news/tn-gnp-0512-angeles,0,3505434.story


Caltrans has been constantly working to get the highway open.  Work has never ceased.  Most of the work is going on far from where the public can see.  Caltrans engineers, geologists, biologists, information officers, operators, etc. have been working on this project for a very long time - doing very complicated work that goes unrecognized.  Maintaining and building a freeway in the ANF (post-fire) takes more than just filling potholes.  But throughout this entire project the media has been welcome and has done stories on the repair work.

At 40.35 you will see where the contractor is repair a rock slide with a colossal excavator.  Already motorist have been riding over areas that were entirely washed away just east of Angeles Forest Highway near Switzer and Colby Cyn.

If you ever wonder what is going on, just call me, but I have been posting pictures of the work for quite sometime at www.dot.ca.gov/dist07 since Nov. 2009.  

- Patrick Chandler, Caltrans District 7, Public Information Officer, ACH Repair Project, 213-897-3630
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update Patrick. So the section between Islip Saddle and Vincent Gap will remain close for an unknown amount of time?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Angeles Crest opening late spring --- we'll see Reply with quote

Patrick:

Thanks for coming on the site and keeping us informed.  Much appreciated.

HJ


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