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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Sounds like I may be able to get by only using micro-spikes. Since the weather service is saying that 2 - 4 inches of new snow accumulation is possible in that area I am wondering if I might need to use my crampons and ice axe instead of only using the micro-spikes.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see if I can do this..

On the way in..
photo5

Its time to get out of here!
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Can kind of see the other side of the trail with the boot steps along the side, its all ice and fun to hang on to..
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Same place as the first picture, just 50 yards up from that picture.
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For good measure
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I'm sure its way worse but more powder covering the ice up there by now. Definately take traction
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting those photos. It really helped me visualize what the conditions up there are like. This will be my second attempt to make it to this trail camp in the winter. The first attempt the snow started to get rather deep; snoeshoes would have saved that day. It looks like I should be able to make it up there on Saturday with no snoeshoes to speak of since the snow should be no deeper then a foot or so.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is the Hwy 2 access for Islip Saddle?  Can I get there from Hwy 138?  I dread going thru La Canada!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was up there last weekend they had the 2 opened completely but you will have to carry chains. I'm not sure what it's like this weekend, but I would imagine that some of the snow has melted during the past week. The only real snow and ice that I encountered was on the trail itself. Traction is needed. I saw a group of Boy Scouts slipping their way down that trail on the Saturday that I headed up. Those poor scouts had on jeans, t-shits and sneakers on that trail; I thought that they were insane not even having micro-spikes or at the very least an ice ax. That section of PCT can be treacherous when the snow and ice are present. And if you are planning an overnight trip, last Saturday night at 10PM I registered 18F on the thermometer on my watch and it did not get above freezing the rest of the time I was there. I left on Sunday at 2PM and the temp was still only 29F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dragon.  I really don't want to drive in from the west and add 30 miles and BS to the trip.  So I can access from the 138, right?    
Just day-hiking Islip, I'm too sore from running down Monserate yesterday.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was on Islip this morning and the 2 is open from La Canada to Wrightwood.

The trail is a good mix of dirt, snow, and refrozen melt.  The summit is clear of snow.

If anyone finds my SPOT device, please let me know.
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I'll give it a look. Thanx!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, no Spot to be found today.  Man, that lower trail is icy coming and going!  I hit up Throop, Hawkins, Middle Hawkins and Islip today.  Had the place to myself until about noon when I SWEAR the entire Asian race descended onto the trail!  I met at least 35 kind overly dressed folks between Windy Gap and Islip!
Crappy air quality, so I focused on the burnt and dead trees....NOT a cute place.  I wore crampons the first hour to Windy Gap then ditched them for softer snow.  Was in snow maybe 10% of the time, this is NOT February!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Little Jimmy Campground Reply with quote

Has anyone been here lately?  Thinking about camping there tomorrow but not sure if there's still a lot of snow/ice on the trail up from the 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went up Islip yesterday, and there were a few patches of really sketchy icy snow on the north slopes but otherwise 50% slushy coverage.  Any flat ground up there seemed fine and most of the trail down to the spring was clear, so I bet the campground is lovely.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: PCT Frog Closure -- New Detour Reply with quote

I didn't know this, but the PCT has a new detour for the Frog Closure section of the PCT (from Eagle's Roost to Cooper Canyon).  Before the new detour, hikers simply walked along Angeles Crest Highway to Buckhorn and then took the Burkhart Trail down to Cooper Canyon to rejoin the PCT.  Now, with the new detour, PCT hikers are asked to take the South Fork Trail down from Islip Saddle, then west to Devil's Punchbowl, and then from Devil's Punchbowls take the Burkhart Trail up over Burkhart Saddle and then down to Cooper Canyon.  That's quite a detour.  Personally, I might just ascend Mt. Williamson and then XC along Pleasant View Ridge to Burkhart Saddle rather than descend all the way to Devil's Punchbowl.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently noticed that too. Not sure I'd like the 18 mile detour (according to one site I won't bother to remember). That adds at least one day to your PCT itinerary I'd think. Taking HJ's cross country route would cut that out but would certainly require significant local knowledge.

Good thing I am a dayhiking peak bagger!  Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What frogs? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about some "Bull Frogs" Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taco wrote:
What frogs?

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Yeah, what frogs?   Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taco wrote:
What frogs? Laughing


Same ones that are now on the endangered species list after that (frivolous) lawsuit against the Forest Service for not doing enough to protect the frogs from humans....so now up and down the state, the forestry dollars get directed towards restricting public access.

In the Los Padres, they just closed Romero Camuesa Road to motorized vehicles until next year...thats a major road into the forest.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AW wrote:
In the Los Padres, they just closed Romero Camuesa Road to motorized vehicles until next year...thats a major road into the forest.
Whoa!  That is a major closure.  From where to where is the road closed?

By the way, Paul A. (trail builder) says "hi."

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Hikin_Jim wrote:
AW wrote:
In the Los Padres, they just closed Romero Camuesa Road to motorized vehicles until next year...thats a major road into the forest.
Whoa!  That is a major closure.  From where to where is the road closed?

By the way, Paul A. (trail builder) says "hi."

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Road closure : "Divide Peak turnoff"

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Hehehe, I just saw Hikeup's email yesterday. I'll be sending Paul an email because I do want to get back in there and help out. Recent pics show the invasive plants have overtaken the canyon so Im curious as to how it is back there.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Mount Burnham - Camp Spot? Reply with quote

I read on summitpost that there is a nice camp spot on the "forested north side of this peak, just below the PCT as it passes below the north face of Burnham." Can anyone confirm the location of this camp spot or another camp spot in this vicinity? Much thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Mount Burnham - Camp Spot? Reply with quote

I was able to locate 3 decent camp spots, about 50 yards east of the PCT/western Mt. Burnham use trail junction just below (northside) the PCT.

taktical wrote:
I read on summitpost that there is a nice camp spot on the "forested north side of this peak, just below the PCT as it passes below the north face of Burnham." Can anyone confirm the location of this camp spot or another camp spot in this vicinity? Much thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice.  Thanks for the info.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was up that way on Saturday.  There were several nice sites along in there.



There was even a spot right on the top of Mt. Burnham itself where one could camp.  Not ideal, but doable.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:15 am    Post subject: Mt. Waterman / Cloudburst Summit Area Reply with quote

Anyone know the conditions around this area?  Is there still snow?  Thinking about camping in Cooper Canyon April 6-7.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: clear from snow Reply with quote

A few weeks ago, after the last "storms", I road my bike up the 39hwy and summited Williamson and dripped down to Cooper Canyon. Little snow on Williamson. Few patches-no snow in the canyons.

You shouldn't have to worry about any snow this April. The trails will be clear of snow, but I am sure you will run into deadfall.
It should be very pretty in Cooper Canyon next week, keep an eye out for those bears. I am jelly.

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Awesome.  Thanks dude.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:42 am    Post subject: Conditions on PCT between Dawson Saddle and Mt Baden Powell? Reply with quote

I'm doing a hike this coming Sunday with a group and I was wondering if there is still snow or ice up there on that trail?  We're doing a shuttle hike starting at Dawson Saddle and ending at Vincent Gap, so it will be a mess if some people are prepared with microspikes (if they're needed) and some don't have any winter hiking gear.  It's been pretty warm this week so I was wondering what the conditions are like up there now.  Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect the worst and hope for the best?

Baden still had snow when I left Big Pines area on Monday. Haven't been up trail so hence the above.  Cool The low was 36 with a high of around 58 for about 30 minutes. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll be up there this Saturday (4/12) and will send in an update...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha I will also try to do the hike on Saturday. I know the switchbacks will kill me but  I can always turn around once I go 4 miles  Very Happy
 Mike if you see me just go around I will be the slow one.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rck, we're going in from the west from Dawson Saddle, but we still hope to see you there!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Conditions on PCT between Dawson Saddle and Mt Baden Pow Reply with quote

tstray wrote:
I'm doing a hike this coming Sunday with a group and I was wondering if there is still snow or ice up there on that trail?  We're doing a shuttle hike starting at Dawson Saddle and ending at Vincent Gap, so it will be a mess if some people are prepared with microspikes (if they're needed) and some don't have any winter hiking gear.  It's been pretty warm this week so I was wondering what the conditions are like up there now.  Thanks!


We traveled from Dawson Saddle to Mt Burnham and then returned. We didn't make it to Baden-Powell due to time and trail constraints. Specifically, the Dawson Saddle Trail to Throop Peak is good until the "new" trail splits with the "old" trail on the western ridge of Throop. The "new" trail travels north of Throop and was very icy this morning. We tried kick-stepping but turned around for safety. Crampons would have best here as the entire north-facing slope was snow/ice-bound. We took the old trail up the moderately steep western ridge line to Throop's summit. This path was virtually snow-free.

The path down Throop's eastern ridge to the PCT junction was clear but the PCT itself was also snow/ice-bound as it contoured the north-facing slope of Mt Burnham. We opted to take the snow-free use trail directly up Burnham's western ridge to the top.

On our return trip, we tried to take the western approach of the "new" trail under Throop as the sun had softened the snow considerably. A lot of kick-stepping here, too, but again we turned around due to a stretch of ice.

Hope this helps... Trip report to follow...
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: PCT Time Reply with quote

Saw about a million PCT hikers on Baden-Powell this morning. I kept seeing backpackers after backpacker after backpacker and started to wonder where they were all going (it's a strange place for a backpack) -- until eventually I was like 'What day of the year is this?' followed by 'Oh'. Chatted up a couple of them to confirm the obvious. But they didn't seem very chipper for the most part. Not terribly interested in saying hi to you like most day hikers (I can imagine it's a bit onerous to say hi to everyone when you're hiking every day). Good luck to them!
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: pct hikers Reply with quote

seems strange that backpacking in the wilderness did not put them in the best of moods.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: pct hikers Reply with quote

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seems strange that backpacking in the wilderness did not put them in the best of moods.

i totally agree with you, but as both an at hiker and a pct hiker told me independently of each other, "to you it's a day hike, to me it's a job."

all they do is walk, eat and sleep.

doesn't seem like fun to me.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: pct hikers Reply with quote

bsmith wrote:
JerryN wrote:
seems strange that backpacking in the wilderness did not put them in the best of moods.

i totally agree with you, but as both an at hiker and a pct hiker told me independently of each other, "to you it's a day hike, to me it's a job."

all they do is walk, eat and sleep.

doesn't seem like fun to me.


Right, if it is such a chore, why do it?  I don't really get the appeal, but more power to those who are motivated.
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I live about a half-block from one of those houses that lets PCT folks hang out and catch their breath for a day or so.
I've noticed the hikers are always happier and more talkative after a long hot shower and a night on a mattress. Laughing
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In order to do the PCT before the "window" closes (i.e. the snows set in come fall), PCT hikers need to do something like an average of 20 miles per day with a full pack.  Coming up Baden-Powell on a 20 mile day with a full pack is enough to put anybody in a bad mood.  

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's interesting because I've had the opposite experience. I was on Baden Powell the last two weekends and had some nice chats at the junction to the summit. Of course, I always throw some extra candy bars in my pack during thru-hiking season. Smile
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My experience has been the same as Teejate. I spoke to a bunch of through hikers this weekend where the PCT crosses Soledad Canyon Road and despite the fact that they were all dirty, sweaty, tired, and hungry, they were all very upbeat about the whole adventure. Of course, I plied them with PBRs and Cactus Cooler so that might have had something to do with it.
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On the last two weekends, we saw through-hikers on the Devil's Slide Trail above Idyllwild and on the PCT between Saddle Junction and Tahquitz Peak trail and they were all chatty and nice.
Most of them were dropped off at Humber Park. One poor dude went up the South Ridge Trail to rejoin the PCT. He was toast!
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They certainly weren't un-nice. Just kind of tired and not terribly chatty. I'm just used to everyone I pass saying hi so passing so many people who didn't stuck out! But they non-verbally indicated "hello" Smile

I agree with HJ, Baden-Powell with a full pack is not a picnic! It made me wonder how many rough patches of the PCT there are like that. I mean there's 20 miles a day, then there's 20 miles a day.

I wish them all luck though Smile I'd rather be doing that than sitting in my office like I am....
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Out of curiosity when should we expect the last of the PCT thru hikers in the San Gabes?
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sitting at da Village Grind in Wrightwood with a couple as we speak.  Cool First group I ran into about 3 weeks ago....GUFFY is a kinda rallying point for them.....3 weeks from border and lots of desert Wink

Say hi to Zack........

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Just read rest of thread and yes, after a long day, not many are very cheery until rested up, but afterwords, all good people in my experience, and great talkers.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw six or seven today between Baden Powell and Hawkins. Has to be towards the end.
Talked to a guy from Quebec who was soloing. It was his fourth time. Mentioned how he we having to scrape off his callouses to get to the blisters. Hike on dude.
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So awesome, hope to be one of them some day!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:14 pm    Post subject: Little Jimmy Campground Conditions? Reply with quote

Has anyone been up to the Little Jimmy area recently? I was wondering what the conditions (i.e. snow on the ground) are at the campground. Any 411 would be appreciated. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no snow - how about the spring?  Is it flowing?  Let me know Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spring is always flowing. Ice cold and delicious!
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone hits the PCT between Islip Saddle and Mt. Hawkins before Saturday, could you tell me the snow/ice conditions? Thanks.


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