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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: My Introduction  Reply with quote

Hey everybody. I just thought I'd introduce myself here. I'm new to this forum, although not new to these discussion forums. I'm on a couple fishing related forums.

I'm a pretty avid hiker, climber, and a little bit of a noob mountaineer. I'm 39, and have been hiking in the San Gabriels since I was about 6 or so. In fact, I still remember my first trip to the SGM's. I was about 6 years old, and I was riding my bike with my dad along the West Fork San Gabriel and it was there, that I saw my first King snake, and was in love with all things nature after that.

I'm looking foward to posting some of my trip reports, reading some of yours and hopefully meeting some of you on the trails.

Until then.......

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Are you a USC fan?  Wink
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Howdy! Sorry about the inactive account issue. Still trying to figure that out!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TacoDelRio wrote:
Howdy! Sorry about the inactive account issue. Still trying to figure that out!
Glad it worked out.

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DamOTclese wrote:
TacoDelRio wrote:
Howdy! Sorry about the inactive account issue. Still trying to figure that out!

I say we round up all of the moderators, chain them to a wooden stake, and set them all on fire to stay warm this Winter. Smile
That's only fair.  Smile
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I see how it is... Laughing
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More donuts!
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Donuts are bad for you, mm'kay?

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HikeUp wrote:
Are you a USC fan? Wink


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: USC FAN Reply with quote

I'm a USC fan, I cheer on any team they are playing against Twisted Evil
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There was a member here prior to your joining who was a big USC fan... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Everyone is grateful that we don't hear the USC Crap anymore Reply with quote

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This is hiking forum and we are grateful to you for fixing the USC problem it was just my one time gab at the folks who jump on that band wagon.

Cannot wait to go up the Bowl on Baldy Sat.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was a member here prior to your joining who was a big USC fan... Twisted Evil


Yeah, I read some of those posts.....AS I WAS WAITING TO BE ACTIVATED!!!!!  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh not you, just letting EnFuego know what the jokes are about. Laughing

Bowl on saturday? Hmmm... gotta get my crampons rusted up, sounds like a good way to get that done! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: En Fuego Reply with quote

Welcome to the Board EnFuego

Now that you are active you can enjoy the insanity we all share.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm suppose to be doing something important this weekend (like moving), but not sure if I can resist climbing the bowl. Might see you guys out there, but I'm afraid the snowplay circus is going to be a nightmare.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pessimist: The snowplay circus is going to be a nightmare.

Optimist: The snowplay nightmare is going to be a circus.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
Pessimist: The snowplay circus is going to be a nightmare.

Optimist: The snowplay nightmare is going to be a circus.


Pessimist: Glass half empty

Optimist: Glass half full

Me: What glass?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Circus Reply with quote

Tim,

If you start early enough you get to pass the circus on your way home.

Last three times I did the bowl or Bear Canyon I started at 3 or 4 AM in the snow, finished and was gone by the time all the "Circus Folks" came up to the bowl.

You just have to be willing to give up a little extra sleep for "Peace of mind" and "Quiet Solitude".

Or you can help me chase the Lion again in the dark?

Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pessimist: Glass half empty

Optimist: Glass half full

Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be!



Lilbitmo, that's my plan too to avoid the circus if I end up going. Better to climb that bowl before noon anyways to avoid the game of ice/rock Plinko.

I'll be sure to have my camera and high powered LEDs ready if I see that lion again Smile
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Tim,
Hopefully that Mnt. Lion won't be taking a piece out of my ass when you do see him? Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Thread Hijack Reply with quote

No one pointed a gun and we did say hello already

Very Happy  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

Ok you can have it back!

Welcome to the San Gabriel Mountains Message board EnFuego Very Happy  Very Happy

Hope to see you on the mountain soon having fun in the snow.
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Welcome to the San Gabriel Mountains Message board EnFuego.  Feel free to hijack the occasional thread.
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Welcome aboard EnFuego! Being an engineer, I figured you'd like my pessimist/optimist/engineer joke Very Happy
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Tim wrote:
Welcome aboard EnFuego! Being an engineer, I figured you'd like my pessimist/optimist/engineer joke Very Happy




I did enjoy the joke....and I do hope to see you guys out in the snow soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: New Guy Reply with quote

Hey all,

I'm going to be heading out to California come August, as I am now attending college just 15 minutes from Mt. Baldy. I love hiking, mountaineering, and other fun stuff, especially overnights. I am a pretty good backpacker (you just need to know how to walk really! Very Happy), but my mountaineering technical skills leave something wanting, for sure.

I've been cruising the site for awhile, and everyone here seems pretty knowledgeable about the San Gabriel/Bernadino area. What is the level of technical skill needed to summit some of these mountains, I've glanced at some topos and it doesn't seem too bad, but I might be mistaken of course.

And if they are technical slopes, would anyone on here be willing to take time out of their busy schedule to show me the ropes? I wouldn't be able to hike until January more-or-less, because I play a fall sport for my college.

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: New Guy WELCOME! Reply with quote

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What is the level of technical skill needed to summit some of these mountains, I've glanced at some topos and it doesn't seem too bad, but I might be mistaken of course.


"it depends"

But most of the common peaks are reachable by putting one foot in front of the other

But as I said it depends... On when you are going and by what route

The Sierra Club Hundred Peaks Section  has route descriptions for many SoCal peaks

http://snipurl.com/ju7sm

I feel the most under estimated danger in the San Gabriel's is ICE seems many experienced people over the years have met their doom that way...

Hydration is very important as well, not too much, not too little. You'll have to find your "Goldie locks" zone, lots of factors play into this as well but temperature and wind are probably the biggest factors

But welcome aboard! The San Gabriel / San Bernardino mountain areas are unique "urban forests" and we are blessed to have them at our back door!


Hopefully you won't wait until January to spend a few hours exploring  Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: New Guy Reply with quote

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I'm going to be heading out to California come August, as I am now attending college just 15 minutes from Mt. Baldy.

15 minutes is a bit over-optimistic, but you are certainly in a good location. Smile

Most of the interesting peaks in the area are accessible by a variety of routes.  I recommend doing some walk-ups and learning about the routes requiring different skills.  You can certainly meet plenty of good people on this board to help get you acquainted with things.

CMC-OC wrote:

I play a fall sport for my college.

Which sport?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: New Guy Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:

15 minutes is a bit over-optimistic, but you are certainly in a good location. Smile


Ok Ok 32 mins... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Matt said, most routes to the summit of SG peaks are non-technical.

I personally take great enjoyment in NOT following said routes, and putting up new routes that are technically challenging, or at least a snow climb. Something to keep your mind on the climbing, and not on something happening at home, or work, or school, etc.

I'm pretty active in winter along with a handful of other folks on here in this regard. If you want to brush up on some skills, you're more than welcome to come along during a group outing.

Aaaand welcome aboard!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@mattmaxon: Yeah, I'll try to get out and about before then, but I don't want to compromise athletics by risking getting hurt/tired before a game or important practice etc.

@AlanK: I am coming out to Claremont McKenna to play varsity soccer! I am super excited lol.

@Taco: A group outing would be awesome lol. I'd probably like to summit "normally" before going for the technical stuff.

Are the summits that are non-technical up trails, or is alot of it off-trail? There is something about hiking off-trail that is so much funner.

Are there sources for water out there, or is it mainly pretty arid. I'm wondering if I need to bring all the water up with me, or just a couple of nalgeens and a small bottle of iodine, I mean for trips that require at least one night.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: New Guy Reply with quote

CMC-OC wrote:
Hey all,

I'm going to be heading out to California come August, as I am now attending college just 15 minutes from Mt. Baldy. I love hiking, mountaineering, and other fun stuff, especially overnights. I am a pretty good backpacker (you just need to know how to walk really! Very Happy), but my mountaineering technical skills leave something wanting, for sure.

I've been cruising the site for awhile, and everyone here seems pretty knowledgeable about the San Gabriel/Bernadino area. What is the level of technical skill needed to summit some of these mountains, I've glanced at some topos and it doesn't seem too bad, but I might be mistaken of course.

And if they are technical slopes, would anyone on here be willing to take time out of their busy schedule to show me the ropes? I wouldn't be able to hike until January more-or-less, because I play a fall sport for my college.

Thanks in advance,
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Welcome, bro, good to have you on board.

The guys have covered a lot, but a couple of things to add:

One of the biggest hurdles (if you're tackling an off trail peak or route) is often brush.  John Muir called the San Gabriel range "the most inaccessible."  It's really dense stuff.  Dunno where you're from; maybe you have really dense impenetrable stuff there, but if not, the chapparal of California may come as a bit of a shock.

The other hurdle is poison oak.  It infests the creek beds of many a stream below 5000' (the elevation cut off is climbing higher these days due, I assume, to climate change).  Get to know what it looks like, and try to get some 411 here before you try lower altitude canyon routes.  There are some hikes where you just plain don't want to wear shorts, and there are others where you just plain don't want to go at all.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

I did a 22-day mountaineering trip (2 resuplies) in the Sierra Nevadas (Thunder Mountain, nearish the High Sierra Trail) and yeah the brush was pretty bad. It's not godawful as long as you've got everything in your pack nice and streamlined, and weren't afraid to get dirty! At least in my memory, which is probably wrong. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: New Guy Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:
[Welcome, bro, good to have you on board.

The guys have covered a lot, but a couple of things to add:


Oh Jim!
We're trying to encourage 'em not scare'em off!  Laughing

But he's right about the brush.... Oh man

The joke is "Two quarts of water and a pint of blood" is required for a trip...

Thankfully higher elevations have less brush than lower elevations, my standard XC gear includes a folding saw and loppers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: New Guy Reply with quote

mattmaxon wrote:
Thankfully higher elevations have less brush ...


Absolutely.

Peaks above 7,000 feet often have no brush problems at all. I did Lake Pk and Grinnell Mtn last September, both over 10k. No brush. Nice spots, particularly Lake which has some great views. Not particularly challenging peaks, but just giving examples of fun stuff w/o brush.
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Above 7k, you tend to get thick Manzanita... ahhhh, it never ends.  Laughing
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KathyW's Meetup Group and Outdoors Club are good places to find group hikes in the local area.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Hi from the NooB Reply with quote

First things first, HI!

I am getting back into hiking, haven't hiked since Boy Scouts. I'm 40 now and trying to get back in shape. Trying not to think of myself so much and live for my wife and 2 girls Very Happy I have been going on Fridays after work with a friend from work but now it seems to be getting a lot hotter. We have done Monrovia falls 5 times, not from the parking lot but down from the street, and we have done Orchard camp. What says the board for hikes close to Irwindale area that have more shade, or cooler hike to hit after work, and noob friendly? TIA
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings!

I'm all for HYOH (Hike your own hike)

My knowledge of that area is limited at best, so I'll leave the hike suggestions to others

I'd say in general it's gonna be tough to find places that are "cool" down low in the hot weather season. (june-ish thru mid-october)

I generally hope for some wind so your natural cooling system can do it's thing

Shade is always welcome, but "afternoon" is a wide range too. In general it starts to "cool" around 4:30 pm or so but that's relative for sure

The general equation for heat for me is whatever the temp is... direct sun adds 10-15, that 5 is for wind. (80 forecast + 10-15 = 90-95)

It also seems if you are in thick chaparral, it holds lots of heat, it's like being in an oven.

Clothing makes a difference "Cotton Kills" isn't just for cold weather, if you are wearing a cotton T and jeans you're gonna roast , cotton white tightees will cause chafing in your nether regions

If you don't have any shade BRING some! Yeah it looks weird but who the heck cares, an umbrella helps!

Golite makes a nice metalized one and I have made a couple with space blanket glued on it, I've also used those umbrella hats, but they are uncomfortable (for me)

Golf umbrellas are cheap and plentiful

Don't forget shoes, breathable ones are essential for hot weather, those leather ovens are gonna cause problems IMO

A bladder drinking system will help keep you properly hydrated

Hope to see some great TR's !

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Close to Irwindale?

Chantry Flats (Map, Map)
- follow Santa Anita Avenue north into the mountains. quite a few trails that head out from there.

Monrovia Canyon Park (Map)
- Waterfall Trail (you said you've done this)
- Ben Overturff Trail (heads up into Sawpit Canyon above the dam)

Get a Tom Harrison Topographic/Trail Map or equivalent so you know what you're getting into. REI sells them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so far  Very Happy  I got a new John Robinson book, the one I had from '76 fell apart when I thumbed through it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yobtaf wrote:
Thanks so far Very Happy I got a new John Robinson book, the one I had from '76 fell apart when I thumbed through it.
Keep them coming Wink
From '76?  Save that puppy!  It's got a lot of cool old hikes in it that are now gone.

Near Irwindale?  Hmm.  If you've got the whole P.M. off, you could go east to Claremont and swing up towards Baldy Village.  Icehouse Canyon is a great place to hike and generally cooler because of it's altitude.  Generally, Icehouse isn't a hike that you could go and do after work.

I concur with HikeUp that Chantry Flats is nice.  There is an exposed blacktop road that you have to go down (and then up on your way back) to get into Santa Anita Canyon, but hopefully things will have cooled off a bit by the time you climb back up.

Millard Canyon is shady once you drop in above the falls, but probably pretty hot on a hot day, even in the evening.

The Arroyo Seco (near JPL) is a nice one.  Fairly flat.  Good family hike.  Shady once you get past JPL, but hot until you get there.

Check out Robinson's book, he's the man.  The book is getting a bit dated now, but it's still the best out there.

Also check out http://www.simpsoncity.com/hiking and http://www.localhikes.com for some good info.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: New to forum Reply with quote

Hello all!
I'm new to this forum and a new return to backpacking. Did the Ice House canyon to Cucamonga Peak out Middle Fork last weekend and ran into someone called "alittlemo" (i think) who told me about this site. Also ran into a heard of sheep, I'll post some pictures later. Hello.

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: New to forum Reply with quote

Migolito wrote:
Hello all!
I'm new to this forum and a new return to backpacking. Did the Ice House canyon to Cucamonga Peak out Middle Fork last weekend and ran into someone called "alittlemo" (i think) who told me about this site. Also ran into a heard of sheep, I'll post some pictures later. Hello.

Mike


Mike welcome to the board, that was me "Lilbitmo" that you ran into just above the saddle between Bighorn and the start up Cucamonga, great talking to you, we search the slopes all day for the "big horns" but did not see any. I'm assuming you are the father as I thought that you introduced yourself as such but if I'm wrong then let me know son/fathers name and set me straight.

After we speant an hour on top - views were great we past over 300 people on the way out, 15 or so coming back to Icy House Saddle, then the crowds were thick on the way out through Ice House Canyon.

Leaving tomorrow for Langley for an out and back hike early Saturday morning.

Enjoy the board - Patrick Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I'm dad (the old guy). Too bad about the sheep. I'll get my son to post his pics as I'm computer stupid. I'm off to Italy for a couple of weeks I'll get on it when I return. BTW, good heads up on the forums.

M
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: N00b Reply with quote

hi, im Torrey, im new. I trail-run and hike, i dint see a new member intro thread, so ima say hello here, and the moderator can move it i figure if it belongs someplace else.  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Noob Reply with quote

Hi torrey. Im pretty new myself. Welcome, this forums pretty cool by the way. Especially the trip reports.

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