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Angeles National Forest Closure Modified, Thursday Oct 1
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. Where'd ya get the hi-res version of the ANF map?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HikeUp wrote:
Same question with all the boundaries that follow trails or roads.


Hows this?
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JoeTruth writes:As of Wednesday September 30th, Chantry, the Mt. Wilson toll road & Mt Lowe toll road are open (but only up to around the Idlehour trail). Chantry part of Angeles National Forest is open and you will not be ticketed. ...... The closure borders are very confusing so it's going to be interesting how they're going to mark it clearly or provide maps of closures. For instance, all of Winter Creek, Zion and The Gab is open but the Newcomb Pass Trail leading up to The Rim trail and Rincon Fire road is closed and off limits. The Merrill's up to Inspiration Point are open again but not beyond. Again, very confusing but at least we have that much to access"

http://www.socaltrailriders.org/f...eles-national-forest-closure.html
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is unanswered, at least definitively. Joe Truth (lol@name) seems to be erring on the safe side, where as my interpretation is that the trails and roads that form the boundary are open. But as usual, who the heck knows for sure. I'd bet if you were on the Mt. Wilson Toll Road above Idlehour Trail Head, and you came across 2 different rangers, one would write you a ticket or warning, and the other would say hello and warn you not to stray from the road on the closure side.

Unless I hear more definitive news regarding this, I'm planning on hiking the Toll Road up to Mt. Wilson next weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're such a rebel. WWFOD?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ze...you're gonna get banned for comments like that!  Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zé wrote:
you're such a rebel. WWFOD?
(not) Have a cup of coffee?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'd probably go cry in a corner in his house.

He's probably going to read this, and go cry in a corner of his house, but not before he complains on whatever forum hasn't banned him yet (summitpost).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean the entire closed section becomes a Crystal Lake? Or a Snow Creek?  Sad

Its easy to bash the Forest Service here, but what would be a realistic plan?

Could start talking about a permit system, but you aint getting my vote for that even if it means anarchy as the other option.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can be very dense for most of my awake hours but I'm not sure wtf you're talking about AW Smile - what am I missing?

I want the Forest Service to tell me in clear language whether I can walk on the trails and roads that form the boundary of the closure area. Seems like one should be able to do so, or at least walk 1 inch to the non-closure side of the trail /road. Anyway, what's tiresome about almost everything the Forest does is that it is almost always ambiguous at best. Very tiresome.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HikeUp wrote:
I can be very dense for most of my awake hours but I'm not sure wtf you're talking about AW Smile - what am I missing?

I want the Forest Service to tell me in clear language whether I can walk on the trails and roads that form the boundary of the closure area. Seems like one should be able to do so, or at least walk 1 inch to the non-closure side of the trail /road. Anyway, what's tiresome about almost everything the Forest does is that it is almost always ambiguous at best. Very tiresome.


move to the beach then. Wink

otherwise use your noggin, do some fingerwork and call someone instead of whining.

I agree things can often be ambiguous with the USFS, and the people within the agency suck at communicating sometimes, but in their defense, things like this are not as simple as closing a ride at Disneyland.

Gerry R. is your best bet for the LA Dist.. 818-899-1900 x228 He's usually in his office office  Sunday -Thurs.

I'm not sure who would be the best contact on the San Gabriel RRD... maybe Lois P....?

SCMRRD for Wrightwood area, call Todd Big Pines at 760-249=3504 on Friday- Sun.


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