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What is your favorite season?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Anyone know around what elevation the snow level is at these days? I'm actually trying to avoid it. (I hike in 5 fingers. I've hiked in them in the snow a few times this season and its surprising how cold and wet your feet can get and still be fine, but I'm not in the mood this weekend Smile

It looked like when it snowed last weekend it was down to like 4000 ft and it wasn't all that warm this week. I hiked Echo Mtn this morning but it was totally fogged in so I couldn't tell what it looked like above me and with the Mount Wilson Webcam out of commission I'm flying blind Smile

I'm wondering if I could hit a San Gabriel Peak or something like that and keep my feet dry. I kind of doubt it. Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Question regarding dry conditions (summer) ahead Reply with quote

Hi All,

A few years back (summer) I recall driving up to Cobb Estate to get in a late afternoon trail run in. There was a sign out front saying trail closed / fire danger.  

Some questions

Do you think this is ahead for the trails/mountains this summer?

Have they ever closed the road to Chantry Flats due to fire danger / red flag?

I have mixed feelings about closing up these areas. Apparently wildfires are healthy for the ecosystem, but it always kills me when they are started by some ignorant person who throws a smoke out on the trail etc.

Thoughts / opinions?  

Be safe / smart out there!

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They frequently close Chantry Flats on the Fourth of July.

I've seen National Forests completely closed before for fire danger reasons.  Not often, but I've seen it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Dry Reply with quote

We hiked Icehouse Canyon for the first time this year today. It was dry.  The creek level was low. The small spring just below the Saddle was dry. It usually has water in May. Mercifully, Columbine Spring is still flowing. Other reports say the Kellys Camp spring has very low flow.

If there are a bunch of fires, then the forest could be closed. Maybe the Monday rain will help a little.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Devils Punchbowl to Vincent Gap Reply with quote

Hello,
Planning a trip from the Devils punchbowl to Vincent Gap via the Burkhart trail via Islip saddle, to Baden Powell and ending at Vincent Gap as stated.  My plan is for a three day two night trip.  
Anyone know of a good campsite just beyond Burkhart saddle?  
Wondering about trail conditions water availability etc.
Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my best shot at recon...

Heading south from Burkhart Saddle there is nothing that I know of campsite wise until you reach the PCT (where the frog closure area boundary is up near cooper cyn falls). Burkhart Saddle itself is very flat and would be easy place to set up a tent - probably windy though. Within say the first 1/4 to 1/2 mile south of the saddle you might be able to find something off trail flat enough for a tent but I can't recall for sure. If you want to you could climb either Pallett or Will Thrall and camp on top - plenty of places up on either of those peaks. No water anywhere though until you reach the PCT area.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Hike up.  Forgot about the frog closure.  My intended route hopefully is outside that boundary.  I was hoping to make the 3 days more uniform in distance for my hiking buddies who tend to complain on longer days.  Sounds like I would need to bring adequate water up from Burkhart trail (Cruthers creek?) Also is there a path from Burkhart saddle to Mt Williamson along Pleasant view ridge?
I am excited to do this hike, seems like a neat area.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the Burkhart Trail last August from Buckhorn to Will Thrall and Pallett. I think going up to Pallett to camp is perhaps your best option, though I'm not really a camper. Pallett, however, is a long and flat summit with some tree cover on the north side. It's about a 700' climb from Burkhart Saddle.

If I recall correctly, there was an intermittent stream about a mile south of the Saddle, which only had stagnant puddles during my August visit. There wasn't a reliable water source until Little Rock Creek, which is 3.3 miles south.

No water on Pleasant View Ridge.

There is an obvious trail up to Pallett. Beyond that is a slightly tricky bit where you drop down to a saddle on the southeast side and climb up the other side. That's the only section of PVR that I haven't personally done. But I scouted it and it looked fairly straightforward, as long as you're coming from Burkhart. I got lost my first time coming from Williamson and ended up on the ridge to Goodykoontz.

If you take the Burkhart Trail to Buckhorn, you then have to walk some of the highway to Islip Saddle. The PCT is closed. Generally Burkhart is in decent shape, but during my visit last year a few rockslide areas were in poor but passable condition. The trail has little tree cover, but the views of rock formations are really great.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the intel Sean.  Regarding PCT closure, I plan on:
1. Either following PVR east to Mt Williamson and on to Islip saddle. (Is this a viable option?) or:  
2. Following the Burkhart trail to the PCT.  
Where is the PCT closure exactly?

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
1. Either following PVR east to Mt Williamson and on to Islip saddle. (Is this a viable option?)

Certainly viable, especially if you camp on Pallett.

Bill wrote:
Where is the PCT closure exactly?

PCT is closed from Eagles Roost on the east end and where the Burkhart trail intersects it at Little Rock Creek on the west end.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again HikeUp!
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you reach the PCT junction south of Williamson, make sure you turn left for Islip. Right goes to Eagles Roost. I don't think there was a sign.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sean,
Left it is. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: little santa anita Reply with quote

Just did this today (June 9th).  Water level is very low (not much above the knees).  Not much poison oak in the canyon.  But avoid the use trail to exit.  Very tough and lots of poison oak.  Better to head to the debris basin.

Saw a little colorful milk snake that had a crushed head (hawk dropped it?) just after the punchbowl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww Milksnake. Sad

I'm confused about "lots" of poison oak. How many LA canyons have you done? LSA has less than most, if not all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was very little in the canyon (and easily avoided).  The use trail before the punchbowl however had large (over head high) poison oak with little option but to push past it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the water flow this year is shocking. For the past 4 years or so, at this time of year, I tend to shower in waterfalls and bathe in streams before work like 3 days out of the week. But as I've been going to all my usual spots, they've all been completely dry. I've never seen them this dry, this early. This is going to be a rough, rough year....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least I won't need my Steripen or Katadyn downstream of the waterfalls this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another road/roads closed around July 4 are Glendora Mountain Road/Glendora Ridge Route road.  They're CLOSED to cars, but its a popular bicycling route around July 4.  Very Happy  Ride up from the 'flatlands' to Mt. Baldy Village, have some eats at the lodge, then its a nice downhill grade back to Glendora.  Or try to make it up to Manker Flats/Mt Baldy ski lifts.  Shocked  Get ther early if you want to do it, as it gets hot after mid-morning.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't say it, Greg, don't say it!...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...aaand R39/GMR/GRR are all open now. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw some snow in the San Gabriels on my way to work this morning Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of frosty trees and some snow at the highest elevations. It's cold enough, we just need more water! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7-12" of rain expected tomorrow in the Lytle Creek and other south facing canyons!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tarol wrote:
7-12" of rain expected tomorrow in the Lytle Creek and other south facing canyons!!


Anyone have any idea how that will impact the Lytle Creek road?

I'm tempted to try to hike in the snow on the middle fork of Lytle on Sunday if the weather is promising, but my main concern is being able to get my subaru to the trailhead. I've never been up that road before.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was dumping this morning.  There was a lot of mud and standing water on Lytle Creek Road from side drainages - lots of big rocks down, too.  The water is very high at Long Bridge and if debris stacks up there, that's when the water will break through the levy there and go over the low water crossing.  If that happens, do not try and go through.  I've seen big trucks swept downstream into the rocks.  Anyway, they're predicting 4 more bands of heavy precip tonight and tomorrow.  The Ranger Station and Applewhite Picnic Area are closed and will hopefully re-open Sunday.  I'd imagine you'll at least need 4wd to get to the Middle Fork Trailhead, if it's not been washed out somewhere along the way.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow Spoiler Alert

Just saw this info on the Mt Baldy Ski Lift website:
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The rain has turned to snow finally and it is snowing hard well below the parking since 4pm.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bschmalz wrote:
tarol wrote:
7-12" of rain expected tomorrow in the Lytle Creek and other south facing canyons!!


Anyone have any idea how that will impact the Lytle Creek road?

I'm tempted to try to hike in the snow on the middle fork of Lytle on Sunday if the weather is promising, but my main concern is being able to get my subaru to the trailhead. I've never been up that road before.


No go, unless you want to park further down the road and increase your hiking mileage.  There is a washout on Middle Fork Road about 1/2 mile from the trailhead - it may be possible with a good high clearance/4wd vehicle, but our OHV ranger didn't attempt to for fear of getting stuck.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow on Baldy down to a little below Manker Flats yesterday. Couple feet in spots higher up on Baldy.

San Antonio Falls/Canyon flowing well.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mt. Wilson Trail weathered the weather well. A few downed trees and some slippage, but nothing major. Basically clear all the way to Manzanita Ridge. Little Santa Anita Creek is flowing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:47 am    Post subject: Mt. Baldy Area Trail Conditions Reply with quote

I went hiking in the area yesterday-- everything is open but some of the trails are in poor shape since the flood.  

Manker Flats to Mt. Baldy -- the trail is in great shape up to Baldy Bowl.  The switchbacks to the ridge from the ski hut have been washed out, but it is easy to find your way up through the erosion channels.  They mostly follow the old switchbacks.  The same is true on the steeper part of the ridge.  If you know where you want to end up this is easy.  The rest of the hike is basically unchanged.

Mt. Baldy to Baldy Notch.  The trail is in good shape with a few minor debris deposits.

Baldy Notch to Thunder and Telegraph Mountains.  The trails are in good shape with minor nuisance washouts.

Telegraph Mountain to Timber Mountain Saddle.  The trail down to the saddle is washed out.  You can navigate it with a little trail finding but count on it slowing you down significantly.  No sketchy parts, just messy loose rock and mud.

Timber Mountain Saddle to Timber Mountain to Icehouse Saddle:  The trail is in good condition.

Icehouse Saddle to Icehouse Saddle Parking Lot.  Much of the trail is in good condition with some minor washouts.  The section of the trail that was close to the creek is completely washed out.  This is a boulder hop area now between mile 1.5 and mile 2.


Other Reports from hikers I met at Baldy Summit:  Bear Flat Trail.  It is like the Ski Hut Trail with the switchbacks above Bear Flat taking the worst beating.  Register Ridge Trail.  A similar report.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Thank you! Reply with quote

Thank you for the trail report.  Very useful info.  We are hiking Manker Flat to Baldy Summit to Ski Lifts tomorrow and have been wondering about conditions.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Baldy trails Reply with quote

We did the hike today.  As JerryN noted, the trails are now eroded gullies. It is difficult to tell the original trail apart from the numerous use trails and switchback cuts. The footing is difficult because the gullies are full of loose dirt and small rocks. The damage starts just past the Baldy Bowl and continues to the final push up the summit pyramid. The last section is not too bad because it is not as steep. From the summit to Mt. Harwood is also badly eroded with more loose dirt and small rocks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reports. I had heard Icehouse Canyon took a beating but I have not been up there myself since before the storms. I'll post a report later this week as I wanted to head up to Cucamonga Peak.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy Bobcat  Smile

Went up Falling Rock Canyon to Ontario and Big Horn peaks and came down Icehouse yesterday. Icehouse took an even bigger beating than the last time it flooded in March. The lower and upper sections are fine -- in the middle it's hard to distinguish between the stream bed and trail.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Icehouse Canyon Reply with quote

Thank you for the report, Ellen!  We noticed earlier this year in Icehouse Canyon that the trail looked re-arranged in the mid-section.  I did not know that there were floods in March, but that explains the changes.  That section was also beat up by a big avalanche several years ago.  It looks like the San Gabriel Trail Builders have their work cut out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Hike up baldy Reply with quote

Hi everyone

A buddy and me are planning a trip up baldy, to enjoy some of the new snow, either this weekend or next. We have lightweight crampons and snow shoes, but are not experienced in using an ice axe etc. so my questions are.
How deep is the snow?
What routes are passable without having mastered self arrest techniques etc?
Any better peaks to try for a bit of snow, but minimal danger?
Do you think the snow will last till next weekend?

Many thanks as always!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Birdman,
I will choose my snow gears based upon the snow condition.

If the snow is fresh snow regardless how heavy it is, I use microspike on winter boots with gators or boots and gators only. I use a set of poles with a big basket, no ice axe.  
If the snow is consolidated and the trail is relatively gentle uphill, I use the microspike with boots and gators. I use a set of poles with a big basket.

If the snow is consolidate or hard packed  and on steep hill such as Baldy bowl, I use crampons and ice axe. You need self arrest skills. It is good idea to take a class for self-arrest skills from Taco.  

If the snow is fresh and deep and the trail is relatively flat, I use snowshoes.
I used snowshoes on Mt. Baldy only twice in 10 years.

You can go up DDB, Register trail, and Ski hut trail without ice axe or crampons.

The snow level around 8000 feet is 2-3 inches. It is 4-6 inches beyond 8200 feet to 9000. It is a bit hard from 9500 to the summit because of there are two layers, old snow and fresh snow, with 1 feet or 2 feet depending on the location. Be careful for deep footprint holes.
If you want to try the snowshoes, this is a good place to use it.

The snow is holding up good because of cool weather we have last 4-5 days.

I choose Ski hut trail because it is the safest trail for winter season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks snmtbaldy

Great advice. Sounds like the ski hut trail is safest and safe is good! I'd also be interested what Cucamonga peak is like in the snow. we tried last year after a slight dusting but turned back just after icehouse saddle because we had no microspikes. Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Birdman,
The only thing I can tell you about Cucamonga peak trail is do not try it when the Icehouse saddle area and beyond is covered with solid snow and frozen. The traverse section of trail from bottom of Bighorn peak to Cucamonga peak is very challenging if it is frozen. This area  gets very strong and cold wind from north and stay cold long time. Once you pass this section, the hike gets a bit easier.
You need self-arrest skill if you slide down the very steep hillside.
Some accidents were reported many years ago.

Since I am not an adventurist so I try to avoid any potential risks.

If this area gets a good snow, you should try to hike up to Bighorn peak from Icehouse saddle then hike on the ridgeline to Ontario peak to enjoy the winter snow hike.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:35 am    Post subject: Camp Rincon, Silver Fish, and Glen Canyon Reply with quote

These are all historic trails that are in various states of disrepair (or basically non-existent now). Has anybody tried to locate and/or hike any of these recently?

Last weekend I tried to take Silver Fish (2N28) from highway 39 west, but about 1.5 miles in it became nearly impassable, at least the original route. Right where the road became impassable there was a firebreak leading up the ridge that could be used to bypass the original route, but I did not scramble more than about 1/4-mile up the firebreak.
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I'm considering a backpack from Mill Creek up to Lightning Point, then down to Deer Spring, along Pacoima Canyon, up to Mendenhall Road, and on toward Gold Canyon to Big Tujunga Road. The unknowns for me are Big Buck Camp (is there water? what is its condition?), and the section from Deer Spring/Pacoima and Mendenhall. Is there a trail? Is it incredibly brushy going up to Mendenhall?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject: Ross Mtn, SE Ridge Reply with quote

A trip down East Fork San Gabriel from Vincent Gap takes a while. It would be much quicker to go over Baden Powell and down to Ross. From there, the southeast ridge of Ross to Iron fork is the most promising except it looks to be a horrid bushwack with poison oak.  Anyone been out there? A trail down this ridge would really open up the lower part of the East Fork from the upper side. I'm curious of the conditions if anyone knows this ridge.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


(View of Ross Mtn from Iron Mtn)

I was on Ross four years ago. The ridge looked gnarly back then, and it still looks that way to me, especially down low.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:33 pm    Post subject: Anyone know the current conditions of Upper Big Tujunga? Reply with quote

It's been hot lately and I wanted to hike Upper Big Tujunga for awhile so thinking on hitting this tmrw. I just wanted to see if someone has hiked through this canyon lately and what the conditions are? Wanted something more recent than Brennan's article from 16 years ago. Thanks so much!

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I guess an update more recent than 16 years ago is a reasonable request.  Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:14 pm    Post subject: water availability Reply with quote

Looking for any information on reliable water source(s) for multi-day packing trips, from either Mt. Baldy Rd. or the 39.

Anything (stream, creek, spring) that I can use my water purifier/pump. Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R39: Crystal Lake area has some.
-The lake itself, which I would definitely filter the hell out of.
-Little Jimmy (still good?)
-Soldier Creek/Lewis Falls: This one might not have much water above Lewis Falls. You might need to go further downstream towards Falling Springs, which used to be a resort or something prior to the Curve Fire in 03.
-Some springs along ACH north of R39

Going west from R39:
-Bear Creek has plenty of water.
-The fork of Bear Creek that drains the south side of Twin Peaks has water, and is 'remote'. You'll probably have the place to yourself. I remember it being rather pretty in there.
-There are sources from canyons along the road to Cogswell Dam.

East of R39:
Bichota Mesa and 'Chimneyville', right off R39. This fork leads to Rattlesnake Peak. There is almost always water running here. Some of the major canyons dropping in from South Mt Hawkins have water, though I'd kinda not count on that this year.

Most of the sources for this area are out of the way.




Baldy:
-Stream just above Ski Hut
-Possible stream between Harwood's north face and Dawson's south ridge. Probably still flowing. Very quiet back there. Good place to be away from people.
-Stuff on Ontario Peak is dry, right guys?
-Spring along Icehouse Canyon Trail on the left side within a mile or so of the trailhead.
-Icehouse Canyon creek itself has water.

There are many more, but those are pretty regular. Got an idea whereabouts you wanna do your trip?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taco -

Thank you, much appreciated!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: Water near Commanche/Third Stream Crossing Campgrounds? Reply with quote

Hi, everyone.

I am hoping to visit either Comanche or Third Stream Crossing via Icehouse Canyon Trail.

Anyone know if there is any water near those two campgrounds? (USFS said "Didn't know" about water at Comanche and "there is" water at Third Stream Crossing. Mt. Baldy Visitor Center said "No water" at Comanche and "doesn't think" there is any water at Third Stream Crossing.

Any help is appreciated!

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