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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?
Is it just a secondary peak or something?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpled wrote:
How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?
Is it just a secondary peak or something?
Yeah, I noticed that.  And why isn't E SB Peak (10,691) on the list?  It's higher than SB Peak (by about 20').  I shot him an email yesterday.

He does say on the website that he knows there are some errors.  In most cases, he enters in raw data and then a computer program generates the tables, lists, etc.  

He replied as follows:
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Hi, Jim,

I took a look at the USGS map and it appears that the official name is "San Bernardino East Peak".  Since it is higher than "San Bernardino Peak", it is not a subpeak--you are right, in fact, one might consider the western peak to be a subpeak of the eastern one.

I have updated the name and subpeak status for the east peak:

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=1410

For now, I am not calling either one a subpeak, since they both have official names.  They both have very low prominence, so they might both be considered subpeaks.  But the one at the end of the ridge probably looks the most impressive from the valley, so it got the best name.

Thanks for pointing this out to me--appreciate the help.

--Greg
Webmaster, Peakbagger.com
I haven't asked him about West Baldy (yet), but it is on his website as a sub-peak of Baldy.  I don't quite understand his criteria.  He lists "wannabe" peaks like Miller and Alto Diablo, but he doesn't list West Baldy.  What gives?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Frazier park peaks Reply with quote

edenooch wrote:
Having all the boxes checked for the highest peaks in LA San Bernardino & Orange counties. I have yet to even take one hike in ventura. I figure why not take on all 4 of it highest in one shot...Has any one been to this area lately?
I suspect it would be very warm and and early start would be mandatory.
Good to meet you out on the trail yesterday, bro.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

West Baldy FTW. Fewer people, end of more cool routes, nice shelter/trees.

Etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:
Rumpled wrote:
How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?  Is it just a secondary peak or something?
Yeah, I noticed that.  And why isn't E SB Peak (10,691) on the list?  It's higher than SB Peak (by about 20').  

He lists "wannabe" peaks like Miller and Alto Diablo, but he doesn't list West Baldy.  What gives?
OK, here's what he's done:
1.  SB E Peak is now listed as a peak.
2.  Miller is no longer listed as a peak.  It is now a "sub-peak".
3.  Alto Diablo is no longer listed as a peak.  It is now a "sub-peak".

He did not upgrade West Baldy to a peak, but I asked him to consider it.  We'll see...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

West baldy isnt really a summit or peak....more likea point of interest......
it is more quiet and peaceful than baldy tho
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's enough of a peak. You don't typically see the top of Baldy from the city, but West Baldy is right there. Better views from it as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh well. every thing around here is a no go and i aint driving south or east for squat..........Ventura it is
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below may answer some of your questions.  They are 15 different reasons that Sierra Club once made it to SoCal 100 but later delisted.  (==> is my comment.)  They are not consitant.

below 5000'

condor sanctuary

drive-up of little value
==> Mt Wilson has a significant value, sure Einstein visited.

hard to find?
==> Time before maps and GPS?

Indian property

long drive-up
==> Local mountains only?

mining operations

minor bump
==> Mt Harwood must be a major bump.

overdeveloped
==> Thunder Mtn still has a room for development.

private property

shooting area

shooting area & heavy brush

shooting range

too difficult
==> Iron Mtn #1 is not the most difficult

too easy
==> That's what SAR hears all the time



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