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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Eaton Canyon Trails  Reply with quote

Today I went for a quick hike up Eaton Canyon to the main waterfall. My mission while hiking up to the first falls was to find the route (for a future trip) up the side of the canyon that takes you to the 2nd falls that has a deep pool and a natural "waterslide". I think I found it, it's on the left side of the canyon, near where the canyon bends and you get your first views of Eaton Falls. For a minute I was just studying the "route" or loose climb I should say, and decided it looked like it could be done if extreme caution is exercised. From the bottom of the canyon it looks really steep but I definitly could see a way up. Well I started heading up really carefully on the loose rock and I made it up a good ways by taking my time. I soon realized though that I shouldn't be doing this by myself and and went down I figured I'd wait to do it with my gf. I do realize simply trying to do this is dangerous, but my question is could it be done, or is there any point higher up that would make this route extremely dangerous. Anyways, Im assuming this must be the way up since it was the only way I saw that looked half way doable. I know people go up somehow since there are videos of people sliding off the 2nd falls on youtube, and I doubt they all rappel from above to get there. So, have any of you guys ever ascended up to the 2nd waterfall up this route or anyother from the canyon floor. If so I would apperciate any advice anyone may have.........Thanks Cool Cool Cool

Also on a different Note: The original reason I went to the Eaton Canyon area was to ride my mountian bike on the Mount Wison toll road but apparently that was closed to bikes Shocked and then they dont allow bikes in the "Eaton Canyon Natural Area" according to the signs in the parking lot, but as soon as you actually start walking there are signs that say multiple use trail bikes, horses, and hikers everywhere. So I went to ask the ranger and he got bothered and said absoultly no bikes. Thats really dumb that they have signs that contradict themselves like that. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Eaton Canyon, 2nd Waterfall Reply with quote

brian90620 wrote:
I do realize simply trying to do this is dangerous, but my question is could it be done, or is there any point higher up that would make this route extremely dangerous.


The local SAR teams know this spot well....

The one time I have descended Eaton Cyn I noted people have tried to climb up from the bottom...Seems crazy to me

The standard canyoneering route has some alternate routes into Eaton, probably worth a read

There is more to see in Lower Eaton besides these two falls

http://www.dankat.com/advents/loweat.htm

But most safe approaches to these falls are done using ropes

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ridge around the first falls is indeed well know by SAR. More hikers fall from that ledge than I can count. I know of at least 6 deaths from falls from hikers trying to go up and around the first falls.
If you decide to go that route, be sure to be extremely careful.

The best way in the past to get around the first falls was to go up the ladder and through the tunnel.
Of course that ladder is no longer there but the tunnel is.

There are 5 falls in the canyon and everyone is a wild drop.

In the early 70's we put a 50' rope at the first falls while hiking out from Idelhour. We jumped over and into the pool at the second falls then retreated up the canyon side and around to Henningers. There is a great slide in the rock about 100 yards before the first falls. Its a fun ride to be sure.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Eaton Canyon, 2nd Waterfall Reply with quote

mattmaxon wrote:
brian90620 wrote:
I do realize simply trying to do this is dangerous, but my question is could it be done, or is there any point higher up that would make this route extremely dangerous.


The local SAR teams know this spot well....

The one time I have descended Eaton Cyn I noted people have tried to climb up from the bottom...Seems crazy to me

The standard canyoneering route has some alternate routes into Eaton, probably worth a read

There is more to see in Lower Eaton besides these two falls

http://www.dankat.com/advents/loweat.htm

But most safe approaches to these falls are done using ropes

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Interesting read from Brennan as always.  Sounds like the middle section above the falls could be reached via Esme Canyon without too much difficulty for some exploration by us non-canyoneering folks.

I've been meaning to get up to Idlehour again (it's been 5 or 6 years), so maybe a little exploring on the way would be in order.

Years ago, late 80's, I took an old trail that I saw on an old topo into Eaton Canyon from Henninger Flats.  I'm sure that it must be the "telephone trail" that Brennan mentions.  It wasn't too bad at the time, but that was 20 years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the late 60's & early 70's that trail was call the miners trail. Probably because there is a mine across the way on the west wall as you start on the trail. It was indeed a fast way into Idlehour but even then the trail was minimal at best. My last time on it was maybe 15 years ago and it disappears in spots. It looks like most people descend into the canyon floor and follow it up to Idlehour. Where the trail empties out at Lower Idlehour, there used to be a large green spot, excellent for camping. There were 2 cabins with bunks in them, open for anyone to use. The cabins are gone and I'm sure most of the area is well overgrown.
On my last hike through Idlehour via the Alpine Trail, the trail through the camp was very overgrown and ticks were everywhere. That was 10 years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Eaton Canyon, R.I.P. Reply with quote

I'm very sad to report the current condition of Eaton Canyon.

Some friends of mine just descended Eaton on 4/8, and what used to be crystal clear pools of deep water are now all filled in with gravel and debris.

Eaton Canyon was probably my favorite place in all the San Gabriel's... literally nature's best water park, filled with dozens of natural water slides, huge jumps, and rappels. Truly unique amongst SG canyons. Now most of the pools are only knee deep.

I had been hopeful that Eaton escaped the station fire, since only a small corner of the drainage burned, but apparently that was enough. R.I.P.

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First falls after the drop-in. Usually a slide:


Usually a swim:


The Gully:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, that's a lot of erosion/runoff stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, that sucks.

It was my favorite, too.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been there but it looks like it will take even more runoff to remove that material.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real shame.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that the canyon looked the same a decade ago--maybe there's hope it will clear out in the next couple years. Also, I didn't think it was that bad compared to two years ago... all the slides go as of last week, and the really big jump is still possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping it clears out quickly too. I know little santa anita burned a few years ago and still hasn't recovered yet. Eaton seems to have fared better though, and definitely not as bad as it could have been. That's great to hear that the slide-jump still goes!
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You know, I was just thinking... do y'all think all this rain we just got cleaned up Eaton or made it worse?
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Taco wrote:
You know, I was just thinking... do y'all think all this rain we just got cleaned up Eaton or made it worse?


I think better.  A whole bunch of that crap got washed out.  Only question is how much new crap washed down from above...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The canyon should eventually clear out... think Rubio Canyon...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cougarmagic wrote:
Taco wrote:
You know, I was just thinking... do y'all think all this rain we just got cleaned up Eaton or made it worse?


I think better. A whole bunch of that crap got washed out. Only question is how much new crap washed down from above...


Yeah that's what I was thinking. Probably got an old Chevy wedged above the Grotto now.  Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wash thinking the same thing today.  I have such indredibly fond memories of Eaton as it once was.  I sure hope all this flooding results in some good.

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For what it's worth, ATS went through LSA last week and said there was a ton of water, some pools knee to waist deep, and "even a few swims" (though there wasn't any detail about that comment - it's hard to imagine anywhere you'd HAVE to swim in there.  I suppose you could "swim" in waist deep water if you wanted to say you did)

Couple friends checked out Rubio as well, and said there was the most water they'd ever seen.  Some silt has been washed out, to where it's back to boulder-walking instead of flat sandy stretches.

In Big T, the river is roaring. (and that's below the dam!)  It has cleared out significant amounts of sand.  The river is now looking more like it did before the fire (minus the shady trees).

I'd love to hear about Eaton if anyone has tried it, or hears any news.
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Same thing has happened over the last 30 years (yeah, I've been around that long).  The Station fire may have allowed more debris to travel down into the canyon than in previous high rainfall years, but it should clear out in a few years.
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Of course Eaton Canyon will be cleared of debris, as do all of the San Gabriel Mtn canyons. And it may not take a few years. Remember when The Angeles was locked down in October 2004 by a previous Forest Supervisor? The one who had a house dropped on her?

Well, I was living [mostly] covertly in Big Santa Anita Canyon at the time, when we had a big Pineapple Express come through. I measured 13.79 inches overnight at Chantry Flat. There had been previous construction on the Mt. Wilson Toll Road near Mt. Harvard and the head of Winter Creek.

This deluge (which lifted the closure order) washed tons of gravel down into Winter Creek, and when I went exploring the next morning, before "they" opened the gate, it was as if one could navigate the length of the creek from top to bottom on one of those skimboards they use at the beach - it was that smooth. There were no pools, and only a couple of water drops. And it was eerily quiet considering the amount of water still flowing down stream.

It mostly stayed that way until a much bigger storm came through about 13 weeks later in early January, 2005. Winter Creek, along with Hermit Falls, the pool at which had filled to only a foot or so deep, cleared out better than ever in just one weekend.

Bureaucratic bungling (and, in my opinion, nefarious planning) of the Station Fire aside, it is the natural cycle of things.
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aw yeah:  (not my video by the way.  I haven't been in there since the storms)


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Awesome video, That looks fun!
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cougarmagic wrote:
In Big T, the river is roaring. (and that's below the dam!) It has cleared out significant amounts of sand. The river is now looking more like it did before the fire (minus the shady trees).


Above the dam....no structural changes...heavy sediment flows...such as the pool below optional rap 6 in the GFF is overfilled with soil. Recovery-mixed...from zero progress to overgrown....mostly the brush is coming back with a vengenace on sunny slopes, but not on shady slopes. Its going to be super dense with the old brush and new brush together.


very low amount of overgrowth, but its there....this is not XC.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Eaton Canyon accidents Reply with quote

I've been reading a fair amount about the Eaton Canyon accidents and was hoping someone here with a better knowledge of the incidents could fill in some gaps.  I know the area fairly well, so here's what I understand (please correct me when I'm wrong):

The main Eaton Falls hike takes a left turn around a ridge just before the bottom of the falls and this is where the Razorback trail starts to bypass the first falls.  What I would characterize as easy 3rd class climbing/walking leads to the top of the ridge where an alternate (but bad and eroding) way down may be found on the left.  Perhaps this was the site of this accident?
http://youtu.be/ZpoRKEuRjzg

Shortly ahead, the correct (and somewhat unobvious) trail begins to contour around the right side of the ridge, but sometimes people make a mistake here and continue up the ridge:
http://altadenarescue.blogspot.com/2011/07/rescue-july-5.html

A short while into the traverse, sometimes there is a rope tied to an exposed root at foot level on the right side of the trail which leads down (via a fall; can't be climbed easily) to where most people hang out at the bottom of Eaton Falls, and may (?) have been where this accident happened:
http://youtu.be/Mt8lzIpZpuk
http://youtu.be/SKdsFCv16pA
http://youtu.be/dItz7D8Epow

Shortly after this, the crux of the trail requires what I would consider a difficult class 4 move to bypass.  A fall here would very likely cause serious injury, but I don't think one would go over the falls.  There is usually a rope tied to a tree above this point and it's very useful in getting past the crux.
http://youtu.be/sCdCYVomjpA
http://youtu.be/77gOzO2njtc
http://altadenarescue.blogspot.co...07/7172011-busy-day-for-amrt.html
Maybe: http://altadenarescue.blogspot.co...njured-in-80-foot-fall-above.html

Continuing down into the canyon, there is another 8-foot class 4 down climb without nearly as much exposure that is usually aided by rope or webbing around a small tree.  After this, it's an easy hike down to the stream bed.

A long walk in and along the stream leads to the second waterfall (Slide of Faith when the water is deep enough...and when it's not), which is the one with a billion Youtube videos.  The trail up and around starts canyon right heading downstream, then turns almost 180 and heads upstream as it climbs above the falls.  I'm not aware of any accidents that have occurred on this trail -- have there been any?

Another shorter walk in and along the stream leads to a big log which is just downstream of a short but awkward waterfall rappel off of a tree.  Apparently there is a way around the log and awkward waterfall rappel, but I've never tried it -- it was just downstream of this log that the rescue I was present for happened:
http://youtu.be/RpsauI7kX78

So, it seems like most injuries/fatalities occur on the Razorback trail between where it leaves the canyon bottom below Eaton falls to where it rejoins the canyon bottom above Eaton falls.  But, it isn't just the crux move that is causing problems -- there is at least one other place where people tend to fall from.  And apparently, the rescue I observed was in a very atypical location.  Does this square with everyone else's knowledge of the incidents and situation?
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That is effing ridiculous. Anyone who does that and puts the life and limb of rescuers in peril needs to be charged for the extraction.

Stupid is as stupid does.
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By what standard do you judge "ridiculous"?  Anyone who does anything in the wilderness puts the life and limb of rescuers in peril; lots of people don't need rescuing but some do.  Why is this a situation where people clearly should be charged while people in other situations shouldn't be charged, or rather, what rule would you use to decide which people get charged and which don't?  But actually, this is moot; it would be a bad idea to charge people for rescue:
http://mra.org/images/stories/docs/MRAChargePosition.pdf

And it also detracts from the point of the post, which was to understand the situation better so that someone could perhaps come up with a way to address the situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The meat of the coconut IMO is these people don't undwrstand the danger and don't have the experience tp properly evaluate the situation

There are people who's opinion I respect who have been there. Who would never go in there again by that route.

That's good enough for me. But as I said these people don't know this and cannot evaluate the situation with skills they don't posess
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bjp wrote:
By what standard do you judge "ridiculous"? Anyone who does anything in the wilderness puts the life and limb of rescuers in peril; lots of people don't need rescuing but some do. Why is this a situation where people clearly should be charged while people in other situations shouldn't be charged, or rather, what rule would you use to decide which people get charged and which don't? But actually, this is moot; it would be a bad idea to charge people for rescue:
http://mra.org/images/stories/docs/MRAChargePosition.pdf

And it also detracts from the point of the post, which was to understand the situation better so that someone could perhaps come up with a way to address the situation.


I understand your point. And I am not in favor of charging for extraction. Period. I fully understand the implications of doing so.

What I am saying is that there is a certain point where people need to be held accountable for their actions. Peopleclimbing those canyon walls in Nikes and Vans without any safety gear are statistics waiting to happen. The problem is they don't understand this. And a sign? Fence? Witness Vernal Falls or Half Dome. Short of putting a ranger in the canyon with a citation book (like the USFS does in the Whitney Zone), I'm not sure how you can enforce any rule.
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We coulda lost Johnny! From John Muir's First Adventure in the San Gabriels...

"The foot of the fall is about a thousand feet above the level of the sea, and here climbing begins. I made my way out of the valley on the west side, followed the ridge that forms the western rim of the Eaton Basin..."

"For a hundred feet or so the ascent was practicable only by means of bosses of the club moss that clings to the rock. Above this the ridge is weathered away to a slender knife-edge for a distance of two or three hundred yards, and thence to the summit it is a bristly mane of chaparral."
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You made a good summary bjp. Also they do get rescued from not knowing where to go up as well...usually they try downstream of the ridge.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: How To: Eaton Canyon past the first falls Reply with quote

Let's say I want to go past the first falls in Eaton canyon. And let's say Their is no way I will ever take that ridge like I did at 13, and almost died,...and still quiver at the thought. Is there a reasonable way to hike around, or drop in from anywhere? I am not talking about way up like Idlehour. I did try some road to nowhere from Henninger, but got the quivers somewhere up at a turn when it became tight with a 500 foot drop, and turned around
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: HOW TO: EATON CANYON PAST THE FIRST FALLS Reply with quote

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I did try some road to nowhere from Henninger, but got the quivers somewhere up at a turn when it became tight with a 500 foot drop, and turned around
That's the one.

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Maybe I will look at it again. It's been 12-18 months since I tried it, but haven't heard of any work on the road/use trail
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a map of Eaton Canyon -- the section above Henninger Flats but below Idlehour.

I've marked out a route in red with a little blue telephone by it. That's called the "Telephone Trail" because a phone line used to go along it.

It goes in more or less followable shape to the saddle at about 2600'. The trail (an old road) basically stops there, but there's a fairly tentative faint path that continues a bit past the saddle. There's a very steep drop in where I've placed the icon of a guy slipping and falling. You can do it without ropes/gear, but I'm not sure it's a good idea. I've done this route.

Looking at the map, I can see other routes that might go. I haven't tried any of them. You may be able to come up with your own as well. It's pretty steep over there.

Good luck,

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Hey Hikin Jim. Yes, Telephone trail is the one I tried, and turned back from. The far corner as I remember gets very narrow at a sliding rocks area. So Its not only narrow, but the ground under your feet is not stable, with a forever drop. (the kind of drop you don't look at while moving). I have a rule. No risk taking if the odds are worse than 1 in 50,000. I figured I might slip one out of 500 times, with a high 50% probability of being unable to stop, making it a 1/10 of 1% chance of dying. (One in one thousand) In the scheme of life, that is a risk. You would live less than three years doing that everyday. I have kids ya know....
Thanks for the map, but the link came up nothing....unless you were showing the north pole in a snowstorm.
I learned about the telephone trail from a webpage I can't find right now. The old timer explained all the old trails going back to the 1940's. He also mentioned something about a parking lot on that road, or the other one directly above Henninger on the East side.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, like I say, that drop in isn't for the faint of heart (without equipment).  Very loose and slidey.

The map link works as I try it just now.  Try refreshing your screen.  Caltopo gets stuck some times.

Some of those other routes are worth looking at although I haven't tried them.  The one with the blue dot by it looks like it would not need equipment.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey fort, I applaud your conservative nature about dangerous routes.  

The telephone trail isn't too bad, overall.  It gets used enough that the 'trail' is pretty stable.  However, if you hiked it, and took the steep and loose drop-in into Eaton, you could only go upstream.  The technical part of Eaton starts immediately downstream of the drop-in.

There is a really nice non-technical section of Eaton canyon in the middle, between the drop-in and the lower two waterfalls (and a few smaller falls).    Canyoneers don't like this part, since it's 'just' hiking, but it's very beautiful.   I haven't found a way down into it though, seems like very thick brush and poison oak down from Henninger, any way you cut it.

I'd say, go to Idlehour and hike down canyon from there, but unfortunately without ropes you can't get to see much of the canyon.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drop in north of the saddle the old road leads to, looking back up (taken in the middle).


The drop in, looking down (taken in the middle).


Pretty sketchy w/o gear.

The canyon, once you're in it, is very negotiable from there to Idlehour, or at least it was in 2009.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Eaton Canyon Closure? Reply with quote

The rumors are flying fast and furious that there will be some kind of closure imposed by the Forest Service in Eaton Canyon effective July 1, 2014, presumably in the area where people keep getting themselves killed. Details are sketchy (pretty much non-existent). Anybody got anything solid on this?

The problem of course is that a closure would affect competent canyoneers, not just the idjits that go without a clue.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:26 am    Post subject: eaton Reply with quote

Hey HJ, dont forget about us not-so-competent canyoneers!! We would be pretty bummed too! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

I was trying to be nice.   Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think we should be spreading any rumors like others are.

Its incredulous cause as far as what has been posted, someone talked to someone at the forest service who said they might have heard about it. I think most people on here know how reliable that is.

It would take a major undertaking to close Eaton. It has been tried before with fences, but that didnt work. It would be HIGHLY unpopular.

The rumor is that the canyoneering section is the only one to be closed(to Idlehour perhaps). Too bad the death route is not above the waterfall. It starts before(downstream) of the falls. In other words, there is a lot of ignorance here.

Lastly this subject was deliberated last year. Yes, Judy Chu pushed for the closure for her cronies then . Yes, shes doing it again and demanding "safer trails" because of the recent memorial of the death of an asian-american gal last year....and she can use that to poll for her legislation. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AW wrote:
I dont think we should be spreading any rumors like others are.


Totally in agreement.  No one has come up with a source for this rumor.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres some links:

http://www.sgvtribune.com/governm...for-national-recreation-area-bill

"Chu spoke of hikers who have fallen and died in Eaton Canyon in northeast Pasadena, and in the Chantry Flat area of the forest above Sierra Madre and Arcadia, saying a National Park Service presence would help prevent such falls by adding Park Service rangers and better management practices......Those invited to the staged event included a wide range of supporters, from cities, the Los Angeles County Department of Parks and Recreation, retail water agencies and labor and job-training groups who see dollar signs not only for the forest but for park-poor communities in urban Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties...."

http://www.sbsun.com/government-a...onal-forest-submitted-to-congress
"....Mark Masaoka, the policy director of the Asian Pacific Policy and Planning Council, an umbrella group of 40 Asian-American organizations including the Asian Youth Center and the Chinatown Service Center, said many Asian Americans need a safer forest experience.

He noted the tragic death of 17-year-old Mark Keppel High School student Esther Suen, who fell 200 feet to her death while hiking Eaton Canyon in northeast Pasadena during spring break in March 2013.

We are involved because we see the potential for increased resources, Masaoka said Wednesday. We want to make trails safer and more accessible, like youd see at national parks......"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we should be spreading rumors either -- hence my post.  I was hoping someone could post something solid.

And "closing" Eaton will be oh-so-highly effective I'm sure.  But first we should put up a sign that says "please obey all signs".

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikin_Jim wrote:
I don't think we should be spreading rumors either -- hence my post. I was hoping someone could post something solid.


You should see my email inbox right now!

I have it nailed down to either Elvis or Obama behind the closure, and the reason being to protect the endangered San Gabriel Yeti.
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We want to make trails safer and more accessible, like youd see at national parks......"


Coming to a trail near you...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no plans for closure of Eaton Canyon, via District Ranger Mike McIntyre, today 6/16/14.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, let's wait for confirmation.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like a lot more than a rumor to me...


Not sure what to think, but it does cite a Forest Closure number.

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