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Rick Kent
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Iron Mountain <3 Hours - 11/10/07  Reply with quote

Big Iron - 11/10/07

My 4th time on Big Iron.

I was hoping to break 3 hours to the summit (a goal I failed to achieve on my last attempt). Since I wasn't slacking off last time I knew it wouldn't be easy. I forgot to bring my stats from the last attempts so I couldn't gauge how I was doing. As a result I simply pushed relentlessly hoping I could shave off 10 minutes.

This time I clocked in at 2 hrs 37 mins from car to summit. Roundtrip time was 4 hrs 42 mins. Apparently I had been pushing harder than I realized.

On the way down I met a group coming up. We spoke just briefly before I continued on down. I ran out of water not far below the summit but with only another 30 or 40 minutes left this wasn't too much of a concern.

Afterwards I took an hour or so to recover. I then drove over to the Baldy Village and started hiking up the Bear Canyon trail. Somehow I never quite seemed to get around to doing Lookout Moutain. I had just enough time left to squeeze it in. This added an additional 10 miles and 2800 ft of gain to my stats for the day and was just enough to give me 10,000 ft of gain and 24 miles of distance. A satisfying burger and beer at the Baldy Lodge finished the day.

Photos: Iron & Lookout - 11/10/07

-Rick


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick, how do you move so quickly on loose soil without eating it/tripping?

Congrats, that's a fast time!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love reading your trip reports and viewing the pictures you take. Congratulations on another successful adventure - I admire your drive. Sometimes, however, I wish you could leave out the personal fast time stuff and "one liter of water" comments - if you want to compete, there are plenty of races.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it. I'll pare it down.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already commented on the first post I saw on Rick's latest Iron Mountain hike. I enjoy hearing details of some of the fast times people, including Rick, achieve on various hikes. I don't think we're not talking about racing -- there are plenty of places to discuss that. But it's nice to know what people can do -- and have done.

In all fairness, several of us tend to goad Rick into commenting on his water use -- or lack of it. I like to take plenty of water, but I use considerably less than a lot of people I read about. Then I see Rick's posts and I feel like a Sparkletts truck. I am surely not interested in competing with respect to water use but, again, I enjoy hearing about how many miles, and thousands of feet of elevation gain, Rick can squeeze out of a few drops.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was obviously a bit obsessed with this one. I'm not generally the fastest on level and downhill terrain. During the last Sierra Challenge I was constantly frustrated that I often had trouble keeping up with the long legged sprinters. I'd like to think that my shorter legs and light weight give me an advantage on steeper terrain but I'm not really sure if that's the case or not. The one and only time I was first to summit during a Sierra Challenge was on Cardinal Mountain whose steep trail reminded me of Iron Mountain.

Taco:

Careful footwork is the key. In the steep parts I look for any little rock or nub embedded in the trail that will give me a footing. This is harder on the way down but I did slip and fall on my ass once. I also use my hands from time to time. Some of those bushes provide a nice hold to pull yourself up.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick -- it's good to know that you get obsessed occasionally. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Rick, congrats on a great summit of Big Iron. BTW, I always enjoy all your photos of summit registers and appreciate that you take so many photos.

I think some of your photos are looking into Coldwater Canyon and perhaps some are of Big Horn Ridge. I don't know if you'd have time, but any further captioning of photos of the above areas would be wonderfully received. Some of us have been batting around crazy ideas of doing Baldy via Big Horn Ridge.

[mother hen mode]
So, regarding the water consumption thing. My dad was really big on low water consumption/low water carry. It worked really well for him for a lot of years, but later in life (50's) he started getting kidney stones. The MD felt that his years of low hydration were probably the primary causing factor.

I'm not a doc, and I dunno what your physiology is doing. Just putting that out there. My dad's first attack was when he was out on a backpack. He was completely debilitated. Fortunately, he wasn't hiking alone, and his hiking partner was able to hike out to a spot where he called SAR on a cell phone. He got air lifted out and was fine. Scared the piss (pun intended) Smile out of him though. He'd never had a stone before and thought he was going to die.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct about the photos. I've been following the Big Horn Ridge thread with some interest since I at one time had considered it as well. I got to see it from 3 different perspectives on Saturday: From the Heaton Flat trail, from the Glendora Ridge, and from Lookout Mountain. The upper half looks to be no problem. The lower half however looks appalling due to heavy brush. However one attacks it I think will be a struggle. I couldn't really see any obvious weakness. I also took some photos of both Coldwater and Cattle canyons. I may try to caption some of them if I have time.

I know what you're saying about the water deal and that is a fear of mine. I only push it when necessary which fortunately doesn't happen that often. Much of the time I'm in the Sierras where water is plentiful.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick,

Nice accomplishment on Iron Mountain. I usually have a quizzical look at supersonic hiking times just for the sake of moving fast, but for Iron Mountain, to be honest, I am not sure of what the attraction is of Iron, if not the personal challenge.

I was hoping you would take out the Big Horn ridge so I could say I knew it could be done Cool and just read about it... thanks for the photos, lets see if someone doesnt take out this ridge soon!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's all it is -- a challenge. It's just a tough hike and unfortunately there's not much to photograph.

I don't think I'm going to be the first to tackle Big Horn ridge. Perhaps if there were some interesting class 4 climbing in there my attitude would change but it looks more like the mother of all bushwhacks to me. I too look forward to reading a trip report. Good luck fearless adventurers!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AW wrote:
Nice accomplishment on Iron Mountain. I usually have a quizzical look at supersonic hiking times just for the sake of moving fast, but for Iron Mountain, to be honest, I am not sure of what the attraction is of Iron, if not the personal challenge.

I can certainly understand that statement. However, I really like Iron Mt. Maybe it's a personal mental deficiency. Confused

Of course, I do admit to being conscious of times on that hike, especially the ascent, so maybe you have a point, even in my case. Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rick. I wish I had your footwork... I'm not the most coordinated dude. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
I really like Iron Mt. Maybe it's a personal mental deficiency. Confused


Mental deficiency? Don't be so hard on yourself, Alan. I'm sure it's just an iron deficiency. Wink


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