| Archive for San Gabriel Mountains Discussion Forum Open discussion board for activities in the San Gabriel Mountains in Southern California |
| mattmaxon |
Station "The Beast" Fire 9/2/2009The Beast is dying! Hooray! Down with the Beast!The largest, most active part of the fire is now the South EAST Claw of The Beast, threatening Chilao, Waterman, & Twin Peaks area. I suspect they won't fu*# around this time and put this out pronto if possible With the Martin Mars and others they could make short work of it Here is an updated KML, the perimeter wasn't updated overnight I'll post an updated KML when the updated perimeter is available http://mattmaxon.homeip.net/data/...Map%205%200445%20PDT%20090209.kml 
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| edenooch |
maxon! some thing needs to be done. since la canada is no longer threatend i be they are saying fuck it let it burn | ||||||||
| robnokshus |
Big Santa Anita?Any word on the status of Big Santa Anita Canyon? Sturtevant Camp? Can't find any updated links. The Pack Station hasn't updated their site since the weekend.Anyone heard anything? |
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| mattmaxon |
Re: Big Santa Anita?
It looks like "The Beast" is making inroads toward Santa Anita Cyn Well have to wait and see.... Thinking at the command center is they'll be lucky if they can stop it at the San Gabriel Cyn. (so I've heard on KPCC) What can be achieved on the south flank? Right now it "appears" to be confined to the West Fork this is a little more current than the last file I posted, no updated "official" perimeter as yet http://pctmap.homeip.net/data2/Fi...20PDT/Map%200650%20PDT%200902.kml 
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| Hikin_Jim |
Re: Big Santa Anita?
Not happy to hear that Waterman, Twins, etc. are in jeopardy. The above map looks like Charlton-Chilao has been somewhat spared? Or is that just an oddity of the MODIS system. I've heard that some USFS and CalTrans owned homes in the area are gone. |
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| mattmaxon |
New KML 1212PDT 0902The fire seems stationary at Devils Cyn for now...No apparent progression to the south into Santa Anita Cyn If the wind doesn't pick up..... 
Pacifico Mtn area seems to have NO active burning One small area in Little-T http://pctmap.homeip.net/data2/Fi...T/Map%206%201220%20PDT%200902.kml |
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| mattmaxon |
From the Foothills Forum.... Newcombs LIVES maybeThere is differing information about Newcomb's but I got the below information from another forum from someone who is very tied to both Newcomb's and Mt. Waterman:Re: Angeles Forest Fires Waterman/Baldy by snowave » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:17 am Here is what I am hearing. CalTrans gone. Chilao Visitor center gone. Christian camp gone. Newcomb's missed and survived. Go figure! Also, Christian Camp is still there (just to the east of Newcomb's Ranch) and is being used as a base camp for firefighters with heavy equipment so this could be a bit of good news. Hopefully something can be salvaged in the end. |
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| scott johnson |
This is my first comment here at this site.
My name is Scott Johnson. I was the former Camp Valcrest Manager from 1993-1996. As of this morning, Newcomb's Ranch has survived the fire. They are currently serving food and drinks to the firefighters. I talk to a LAFD paramedic at Angeles Crest Christian camp who stated that all the resident camps along Sulphur Springs Road are safe. More than 300 firefighters are using Christian Camp as a base for local fire surpression. The fire itself is in the southern end of Chilao. I talked to a couple of Forest Service guys who stated that the Bandido campground seems to be the northern edge in Chilao Flats. I will post more info here as soon as I get it. BTW, great job on the fire maps!! Scott Johnson |
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| AlanK |
I am glad to hear that Newcomb's Ranch survived. Sorry for posting erroneous information. In this case, I am happy to be wrong! 
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| Hikin_Jim |
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| AlanK |
I'm waiting to wake up and find out that the whole damned thing was just a nightmare! |
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| Hikin_Jim |
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| mattmaxon |
Hey welcome aboard! You're info is a great relief to everyone here...Thank you so much for the update
 I endeavor to persevere
Glad to be of service 
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| Layne Cantrell |
Are we/should we be worried about Buckhorn? Newcomb's is awfully close - too close for my comfort. I've been going to Buckhorn since I was about five (I'm 26 now) with my dad. The site has become something of a spiritual place for me, one of the few constants in my life as I've grown. Its hard to explain really without coming across a bit "loopy." |
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| mattmaxon |
Until this thing is out everything is in danger But Buckhorn is quite a distance away, even if the wind was to pick up I'd venture a guess that it is 2-3 days away
Don't worry where all a bit "loopy" here esp when it comes to our beloved San Gabriel Mtns! It isn't hard to explain to us Matt |
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| Layne Cantrell |
That's what I figured/hoped. It was also comforting to hear about the firefighters at the Christian camp nearby. My biggest fear was that they'd simply let the eastern flank go since there aren't a lot of structures there (which to me is what makes the place so wonderful!).
Thanks man. I've been lurking here since I read about 39 possibly re-opening to 2 and I figured if anyone understood my over-the-top love for the SGs it was you guys. Its been a great comfort reading this board the last few days. |
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| Mike P |
Careful there, Layne. This board has been known to cause severe intellectual or emotional setbacks! 
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| Zé |
current cam near Baldy:
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| Layne Cantrell |
I'm having enough of an emotional setback trying to figure out what's going on up there.
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| mattmaxon |
Final sateillite pass of the dayThe data shows the Beast at the head of Santa Anita CynIf no effort is made here it's likely gone, since there are no transmitters or homes in there...... Pray for rain as the FS won't do a thing http://mattmaxon.homeip.net/data/...%200902/Map%207%201804%200902.kml |
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| Hikin_Jim |
Re: Final sateillite pass of the day
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| Mike P |
Hey Jim, it looks like I was wrong yesterday. According to Matt's map Castle Canyon is getting hit now  Does anyone have visual confirmation of this?
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| HikeUp |
Re: Final sateillite pass of the day
I listened to the press conference at 5:00 pm this afternoon with all the big muckity mucks. They stressed that their main concern/area of concentration was now the southeast front of the fire and that one of their priorities was protecting Santa Anita Canyon. The FS says they are doing something. I hear two sides of the story at every turn. Did I hear it wrong? |
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| MtnMan |
Re: From the Foothills Forum.... Newcombs LIVES maybe
FYI- you quoted the wrong person This was the person who made those comments. Re: Angeles Forest Fires Waterman/Baldy Post by Tom Moriarty » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:15 pm Here is what I am hearing. CalTrans gone. Chilao Visitor center gone. Christian camp gone. Newcomb's missed and survived. Go figure! from here on the bottom of the page: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8129&start=15 |
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| MtnMan |
btw, here is a list of recreation sites inventoried by the Asst. Rec officer, G. Reponen. Alot is still unknown, obviously.
Recreation Site status as of today September 2: All recreation sites in the lower Arroyo Seco and Bear Canyon were burned over by an intense fire but we do not know what survived Millard- did not have any fire Cobb Estate- has not had any fire Chantry- has not had any fire Delta Flat Overlook- 20% of the telephone poles burned Delta Flat- no damage Wildwood PA- Family signs burned, House gone but garage survives, 4 holer burned, no other damage, the plantation 60%+ destroyed Vogel Flat PA- some barrier rails/posts burned Stoneyvale PA- one table burned Stoneyvale Overlook- all telephone poles burned Big T Dam Overlook- no damage The Pines Day Use Area- no damage The Pines PA- the plantation is at least 50% destroyed unkown the status of our facilities Hidden Springs PA- bulletin board and barrier posts/rails REA sign burned Monte Cristo CG- Family signs burned, post for PAY HERE sign burned, lots of broken sycamore branches due to fire winds Pony Park TH- restoom, all signs, and the wooden retaining wall burned Mill Creek PA- everything wooden including the restrooms burned Lightning Point Group CG- fire went through there on Saturday, status unknown Messenger Flat CG- fire went through there on Saturday, status unknown North Fork PA- fire went through there on Saturday, status unknown Bear Divide PA- threatened still Wilson Saddle TH- not threatened Oak Springs TH- threatened still Clear Creek IS- fences burned Switzer's PA- family signs burned, upper bridge possibly burned, no other known damage Redbox PA/TH- no damage Valley Forge TC- under fire, status unknown West Fork TC- under fire, status unknown Devore TC- under fire, status unknown Charlton PA- Fire went through Sunday- intense fire on the south slopes but status unknown Chilao CG, PA, VC- under fire status unknown Three Points TH- under fire, status unknown Bandido Group CG- under fire, status unknown Horseflat CG- under fire, status unknown Sulphur Springs TC- under fire, status unknown Pacifico CG- fire went through Monday, status unknown Buckhorn CG/Cooper Canyon TC and sites east- unaffected Mt. Lowe TC- under fire, status unknown Inspiration Point Overlook- under fire, status unknown Echo Mountain PA- under fire, status unknown Idlehour TC- under fire, status unknown Spruce Grove TC- has not had any fire Cascade PA- has not had any fire Hoegees TC- has not had any fire Chantry Flat PA- has not had any fire Northfork Station- survived Camp 16- totally destroyed Mill Creek Stattion and residences- totally destroyed, large barracks at County yard destroyed Monte Cristo Station- Mike's house destroyed Big T Station and residences- survived, entrance station destroyed Clear Creek Station and IS- survived Redbox/Haramoknga- survived Mt. Wilson/Skyline Park- understory burning to remove the fuels before the fire front arrives Crest Station and residences- survived Arroyo residences- survived Little T - threatened still Bear Divide- threatened still Vetter Mountain Lookout and garage- destroyed Chilao Station and residences under fire- status unkown Chilao Caltrans- residences destroyed Newcombs Ranch- threatened still Hidden Valley Girl Scout Camp- status unknown Angeles Crest Christian Camp- intact Camp Singing Pines- status unknown Camp Eaton- intact Camp Valcrest- intact Glenwood Dad's Camp- threatened |
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| mattmaxon |
Re: Final sateillite pass of the day
Many people, called and pressured the forest sertvice "apparently" to some effect |
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