I would think they can easily contain this between ACH and the Mt Lukens Rd, right?
edenooch
Went for a jog up the Mt lowe fire road. could see the flames.......
Even at night from echo mountain you could still see the orange glow..
water choppers like crazy..looks like its just eeast of mt lukens
mattmaxon
cougarmagic wrote:
I would think they can easily contain this between ACH and the Mt Lukens Rd, right?
Well you'd think so....
LA County is probably all over this one, lots of houses on the other side of the ridge
While the weather is hot the, wind is not bad, humidity is very low as measured at clear creek teens and single digits yesterday
The brush over there is thicker than flies on a fresh one
The last fire to affect that area was the WOODWARDIA FIRE alarm date of 10/13/1959 est acreage of 14,403.3. That covered most of the Arroyo Seco bounded on the north by Angeles Crest Highway, Angeles Forest Highway, Big T rd
cougarmagic
I think I read that the Woodwardia fire was the last straw for the Switzer resort.
Quote:
Hmm...awfully close to Twin Cyn.
well hopefully it's out by the weekend and the road is open.
cougarmagic
Quote:
Highway 2 is expected to remain closed through at least noon Thursday due to firefighting operations.
(Inciweb now has a twitter feed too...that's just kind of weird....)
mattmaxon
I hiked up to Mt Lukens road and had a peek
It appeared to me the majority of the fire was below ACH in Dark Cyn, I couldn't see down the highway so I don't know what the heck was going on down there.
There wasn't much activity except for a CalFire plane orbiting, though as I was leaving some hand crews where down on the highway
I just uploaded the video (11:20am) so it is still processing
Thanks Matt. How 'bout a map showing where you were standing - I'm having trouble picturing what direction you're looking, and what ridge exactly.
Are you sure it was burning below ACH?? Oh man that is bad news...
cougarmagic
Nevermind, I got it. I also figured out why I though it was on the Lukens side - "1 mile above Angeles Crest Fire Station". I saw the word "above" and thought "uphill", rather than just north...
Image from Ch 7 (I can't figure this out exactly - I don't know what direction they're looking, if this was taken last night or early this morning.)
mattmaxon
cougarmagic wrote:
Thanks Matt. How 'bout a map showing where you were standing - I'm having trouble picturing what direction you're looking, and what ridge exactly.
cougarmagic wrote:
Are you sure it was burning below ACH?? Oh man that is bad news...
Positive
cougarmagic
You were flirting with danger....
cbs2 is reporting that the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge. They're trying to stop it there.
mattmaxon
cougarmagic wrote:
You were flirting with danger....
cbs2 is reporting that the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge. They're trying to stop it there.
Danger is my middle name
Seems to me that it was intentional (the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge)
There was no serious effort to put this out when I was there, very laid back
I wasn't surprised to see it roar back to life
At the time I was there it wasn't anywhere near Mt Lukens Rd, the ridge or much above the highway
Though I don't put much stock in anything the media sez, especially when it comes to geography.... It's a miracle they find their way out of the station let alone to the various locations IMO
Shut off the sound and hopefully they'll show something useful
The quality of the reporting is low low low
HikeUp
mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name
I think Matt needs a nickname!
"The most dangerous man alive!"
HikeUp
Station fire image...
TacoDelRio
HikeUp wrote:
mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name
I think Matt needs a nickname!
"The most dangerous man alive!"
How about...
...yeah, if you don't like it, I'll change it. Up to you, Matt!
cougarmagic
mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name
Few people can say this.
But someone who thinks nothing of wielding a live chainsaw while rappelling, can say this.
TacoDelRio
I've seen him rappel with TWO chainsaws... into a pool full of molten-steel sharks.
edenooch
went fora jog around mt washigton. looks like its east of glendale now.. chey chase canyon???
The 3 bright lighhts are the Eagle rock high Football field
HikeUp
Someone stop me!
One more image...
cougarmagic
CCC ridge and Dark Canyon on the right of the frame. This was taken around noon this morning.
On the bright side - less brush on the Twin Canyon Trail! But if it gets into the canyon, that is going to be a very very sad day.
AlanK
From our street near the Verdugos we can see the flames from the Station fire shooting up over the ridge above La Canada. We just took in some La Canada friends who were asked to voluntarily evacuate from their place off of ACH near the golf course. Rumors of a quiet little fire are over.
Hikin_Jim
AlanK wrote:
From our street near the Verdugos we can see the flames from the Station fire shooting up over the ridge above La Canada. We just took in some La Canada friends who were asked to voluntarily evacuate from their place off of ACH near the golf course. Rumors of a quiet little fire are over.
Not good. My mom lives right on the La Canada/La Crescenta boundary -- way up in the hills.
mattmaxon
Sadly this fire has gone loco
They have a "mandatory" evacuation order is in effect for 500+ homes North of Vista Del Valle Road, East of La Canada Blvd., extending into La Canada Country Club area.
On the bright side these Modis fire detections are not all that accurate, the "footprint" is overly broad, I wouldn't read much into it, it's just and indication something is burning from a satellite 22,200 miles up
Wait for a perimeter before you start counting your losses
I'd expect Los Angeles County to become heavily involved since PP is now threatened, many more air and ground resources, which is what should have been done yesterday early instead of waiting until 9am to get out there!
One news report this morning said there is now a forest-wide closure. Haven't been able to confirm that, though.
mattmaxon
TacoDelRio wrote:
Holy shit! So those circles are generously sized?
Yes
I'd be inclined to say from experience watching these things, the fire is down to Arroyo Seco and up to the ridge line on Mt Lukens from Dark Cyn down canyon
Given the evacuation order and what I saw this AM it has rounded the South east ridge on to the south face of Mt Lukens and is heading west
One major problem today for aircraft is the smoke, ya can't see shit, further given the smoke the fire fighters will be having a tough slog... They'll be sending FF's to the hospital with breathing problems and heat exhaustion
mattmaxon
cougarmagic wrote:
Holy Hell.
One news report this morning said there is now a forest-wide closure. Haven't been able to confirm that, though.
There is a closure order for San Gabriel Canyon going into effect today
Like I said the media are morons, shut off the sound, hopefully they'll show something useful
edenooch
damn!!
Hikin_Jim
I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general. Alternate link?
HikeUp
A walk out on Brown Mtn. Road would be interesting right about now!
AW
Hikin_Jim wrote:
I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general. Alternate link?
ANF website , I dont know but think its a good idea until they can get some of the recent stuff out. One more fire around here and I might not be able to breathe! muchless see anything.
Hikin_Jim
Fire Map from LA Times
It says no structures under immediate threat (as of about 6 this morning). My mom lives in Briggs Terrace.
That point where Morris started supposedly had fire ban signs posted every 30 feet in English and Spanish. The unconfirmed-as-yet rumor is that 2 people fishing started the fire to cook, the signs didn't apply to them.
If true, I hope they throw the book at them -- and charge them for the fire fighting expense.
I'm not at all sure that fining that Boy Scout thousands of dollars was the right thing to do, but if these two fishermen started that fire, then I have NO doubt that a fine would be the right thing to do.
Here are some pictures, mostly from the San Rafael Hills near Flintridge Sacred Heart School around 4 PM. (There are a couple from in front of my house this morning.)
In this picture, the 210 Freeway, La Canada HS, and JPL are in the foreground.
The map of the burn area on the Star News Web site is greatly exaggerated. I went up Ocean View a ways and the fire is nowhere near that far west on the south slopes. This map is more accurate.
mattmaxon
This is some of the latest Modis data.....
Not good, any way you cut it
We'll have to wait for the smoke to clear to count our losses, some gains maybe as PO and pot farms will be trashed for a few years... Little solace
HPS peaks in closed area in and around the Station Fire:
09A Mount Gleason (in the burn perimeter)
09B Iron Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09C Condor Peak (in the burn perimeter)
09D Fox Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09E Mount Lukens (in the burn perimeter)
10A Mount Emma
10B Old Mount Emma
10C Pacifico Mountain
10D Bare Mountain
10E Granite Mountain #1
10F Rabbit Peak #1 (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
10G Iron Mountain #3
10H Round Top
10I Mount Hillyer
10J Cole Point
11A Josephine Peak (in the burn perimeter)
11B Strawberry Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
11C Mount Lawlor
11D Barley Flats
11F Vetter Mountain (LO)
12A Mount Deception (in the burn perimeter)
12B Mount Disappointment (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12C San Gabriel Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12D Mount Markham (in the burn perimeter)
12E Mount Lowe (in the burn perimeter)
12F Occidental Peak
12G Mount Wilson
15A Monrovia Peak
edenooch
Hikin_Jim wrote:
HPS peaks in closed area in and around the Station Fire:
09A Mount Gleason (in the burn perimeter)
09B Iron Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09C Condor Peak (in the burn perimeter)
09D Fox Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09E Mount Lukens (in the burn perimeter)
10A Mount Emma
10B Old Mount Emma
10C Pacifico Mountain
10D Bare Mountain
10E Granite Mountain #1
10F Rabbit Peak #1 (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
10G Iron Mountain #3
10H Round Top
10I Mount Hillyer
10J Cole Point
11A Josephine Peak (in the burn perimeter)
11B Strawberry Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
11C Mount Lawlor
11D Barley Flats
11F Vetter Mountain (LO)
12A Mount Deception (in the burn perimeter)
12B Mount Disappointment (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12C San Gabriel Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12D Mount Markham (in the burn perimeter)
12E Mount Lowe (in the burn perimeter)
12F Occidental Peak
12G Mount Wilson
15A Monrovia Peak
or the entire forest.........shit............damn arsonists!
are the trails from the neighborhoods to the front ranges still open?
edenooch
The latest views from mt washington stairs
The Dark mountain range below the fire is eagle rock ridge