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cougarmagic

New fire on ACH

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/l...e-in-angeles-national-forest.html

ACH is currently closed out of La Canada.
mattmaxon

Angeles Crest Highway MM 29.04

HikeUp

Hmm...awfully close to Twin Cyn.
cougarmagic

I would think they can easily contain this between ACH and the Mt Lukens Rd, right?
edenooch

Went for a jog up the Mt lowe fire road. could see the flames.......
Even at night from echo mountain you could still see the orange glow..
water choppers like crazy..looks like its just eeast of mt lukens


mattmaxon

cougarmagic wrote:
I would think they can easily contain this between ACH and the Mt Lukens Rd, right?


Well you'd think so....

LA County is probably all over this one, lots of houses on the other side of the ridge

While the weather is hot the, wind is not bad, humidity is very low as measured at clear creek teens and single digits yesterday

The brush over there is thicker than flies on a fresh one

The last fire to affect that area was the WOODWARDIA FIRE alarm date of 10/13/1959 est acreage of 14,403.3. That covered most of the Arroyo Seco bounded on the north by Angeles Crest Highway, Angeles Forest Highway, Big T rd

cougarmagic

I think I read that the Woodwardia fire was the last straw for the Switzer resort.
Quote:

Hmm...awfully close to Twin Cyn.


well hopefully it's out by the weekend and the road is open.  

Sad
cougarmagic

Quote:
Highway 2 is expected to remain closed through at least noon Thursday due to firefighting operations.


from Inciweb:
http://inciweb.org/incident/1856/

(Inciweb now has a twitter feed too...that's just kind of weird....)
mattmaxon

I hiked up to Mt Lukens road and had a peek

It appeared to me the majority of the fire was below ACH in Dark Cyn, I couldn't see down the highway so I don't know what the heck was going on down there.

There wasn't much activity except for a CalFire plane orbiting, though as I was leaving some hand crews where down on the highway

I just uploaded the video (11:20am) so it is still processing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbiREHAMd5Q

cougarmagic

Thanks Matt.  How 'bout a map showing where you were standing - I'm having trouble picturing what direction you're looking, and what ridge exactly.

Are you sure it was burning below ACH??  Oh man that is bad news...
cougarmagic

Nevermind, I got it.  I also figured out why I though it was on the Lukens side - "1 mile above Angeles Crest Fire Station".  I saw the word "above" and thought "uphill", rather than just north...

Image from Ch 7 (I can't figure this out exactly - I don't know what direction they're looking, if this was taken last night or early this morning.)

mattmaxon

cougarmagic wrote:
Thanks Matt.  How 'bout a map showing where you were standing - I'm having trouble picturing what direction you're looking, and what ridge exactly.




cougarmagic wrote:
Are you sure it was burning below ACH??  Oh man that is bad news...


Positive
cougarmagic

You were flirting with danger.... Exclamation

cbs2 is reporting that the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge.  They're trying to stop it there.
mattmaxon

cougarmagic wrote:
You were flirting with danger.... Exclamation

cbs2 is reporting that the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge.  They're trying to stop it there.


Danger is my middle name

Seems to me that it was intentional (the fire has now reached the Mt Lukens ridge)

There was no serious effort to put this out when I was there, very laid back

I wasn't surprised to see it roar back to life

At the time I was there it wasn't anywhere near Mt Lukens Rd, the ridge or much above the highway

Though I don't put much stock in anything the media sez, especially when it comes to geography.... It's a miracle they find their way out of the station let alone to the various locations IMO

Shut off the sound and hopefully they'll show something useful

The quality of the reporting is low low low
HikeUp

mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name

I think Matt needs a nickname!

"The most dangerous man alive!" Smile
HikeUp

Station fire image...
TacoDelRio

HikeUp wrote:
mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name

I think Matt needs a nickname!

"The most dangerous man alive!" Smile


How about...

...yeah, if you don't like it, I'll change it. Up to you, Matt!
cougarmagic

mattmaxon wrote:
Danger is my middle name


Few people can say this.  

But someone who thinks nothing of wielding a live chainsaw while rappelling, can say this.
TacoDelRio

I've seen him rappel with TWO chainsaws... into a pool full of molten-steel sharks.
edenooch

went fora jog around mt washigton. looks like its east of glendale now.. chey chase canyon???
The 3 bright lighhts are the Eagle rock high Football field
HikeUp

Someone stop me!

One more image...

cougarmagic



CCC ridge and Dark Canyon on the right of the frame.  This was taken around noon this morning.

On the bright side - less brush on the Twin Canyon Trail!  But if it gets into the canyon, that is going to be a very very sad day.

AlanK

From our street near the Verdugos we can see the flames from the Station fire shooting up over the ridge above La Canada.  We just took in some La Canada friends who were asked to voluntarily evacuate from their place off of ACH near the golf course.  Rumors of a quiet little fire are over.
Hikin_Jim

AlanK wrote:
From our street near the Verdugos we can see the flames from the Station fire shooting up over the ridge above La Canada.  We just took in some La Canada friends who were asked to voluntarily evacuate from their place off of ACH near the golf course.  Rumors of a quiet little fire are over.
Not good.  My mom lives right on the La Canada/La Crescenta boundary -- way up in the hills.   Shocked
mattmaxon

Sadly this fire has gone loco Sad

They have a "mandatory" evacuation order is in effect for 500+ homes North of Vista Del Valle Road, East of La Canada Blvd., extending into La Canada Country Club area.

On the bright side these Modis fire detections are not all that accurate, the "footprint" is overly broad, I wouldn't read much into it, it's just and indication something is burning from a satellite 22,200 miles up

Wait for a perimeter before you start counting your losses

I'd expect Los Angeles County to become heavily involved since PP is now threatened, many more air and ground resources, which is what should have been done yesterday early instead of waiting until 9am to get out there! Evil or Very Mad

My GIS data is here
http://mattmaxon.homeip.net/data/Fire%20Perimters/Station%20Fire/

TacoDelRio

Holy shit! So those circles are generously sized?

I too could see this fire from my house.

NOT COOL

Sucks too that three major roads are now in trouble: ACH, R39, and GMR.

I hope everyone here is good to go, and doesn't have anyone in trouble near the fires.
mattmaxon

I was going to do my Friday morning thing....

Nope the smoke is very thick...around here

I thought if I went east of the fire ug worse

So I went to Big-T and headed up nope shit loads of smoke up there too.

The ER rooms will be PACKED with breathing troubles today, people will die IMO

Anybody down by the coast on the board? Was thinking of heading over toward Malibu or Ventura What's the smoke situation over there?
mattmaxon

Video of smoke and fire in LCF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0jgNsaAzo

cougarmagic

Holy Hell.

One news report this morning said there is now a forest-wide closure.  Haven't been able to confirm that, though.
mattmaxon

TacoDelRio wrote:
Holy shit! So those circles are generously sized?


Yes

I'd be inclined to say from experience watching these things, the fire is down to Arroyo Seco and up to the ridge line on Mt Lukens from Dark Cyn down canyon

Given the evacuation order and what I saw this AM it has rounded the South east ridge on to the south face of Mt Lukens and is heading west

One major problem today for aircraft is the smoke, ya can't see shit, further given the smoke the fire fighters will be having a tough slog... They'll be sending FF's to the hospital with breathing problems and heat exhaustion
mattmaxon

cougarmagic wrote:
Holy Hell.

One news report this morning said there is now a forest-wide closure.  Haven't been able to confirm that, though.


There is a closure order for San Gabriel Canyon going into effect today

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/9302/

Like I said the media are morons, shut off the sound, hopefully they'll show something useful
edenooch

damn!!
Hikin_Jim

I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general.  Alternate link?
HikeUp

A walk out on Brown Mtn. Road would be interesting right about now!
AW

Hikin_Jim wrote:
I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general.  Alternate link?


ANF website Very Happy , I dont know but think its a good idea until they can get some of the recent stuff out. One more fire around here and I might not be able to breathe! muchless see anything.
Hikin_Jim

Fire Map from LA Times  
It says no structures under immediate threat (as of about 6 this morning).  My mom lives in Briggs Terrace.   Shocked


The live video feed from Fox is mostly covering the Station Fire right now.


Today's statewide map:
cougarmagic

No of course not, those guys were being 'careful' obviously.
Mike P

A-Mazing:
Hikin_Jim

TacoDelRio wrote:
I've seen him rappel with TWO chainsaws... into a pool full of molten-steel sharks.
Ha!  Those chainsaws were electric, so those sharks are history.  Of course what does that say about Matt?  ALIEN!   Shocked
cougarmagic

Los Angeles, CA:



Mordor, Middle Earth:

edenooch

so was this arson? or did taco delrios pot farm blow up again
HikeUp

HikeUp wrote:
A walk out on Brown Mtn. Road would be interesting right about now!

Well, maybe not such a good idea considering it's ON FIRE!!!

Pics from about noon on Friday 2009-08-28.



Hikin_Jim

DamOTclese wrote:
That point where Morris started supposedly had fire ban signs posted every 30 feet in English and Spanish. The unconfirmed-as-yet rumor is that 2 people fishing started the fire to cook, the signs didn't apply to them.
If true, I hope they throw the book at them -- and charge them for the fire fighting expense.

I'm not at all sure that fining that Boy Scout thousands of dollars was the right thing to do, but if these two fishermen started that fire, then I have NO doubt that a fine would be the right thing to do.
Hikin_Jim

From the Pasadena Star News:  Station Fire burns uncontrolled, more residents prepare for evacuation
AlanK

Here are some pictures, mostly from the San Rafael Hills near Flintridge Sacred Heart School around 4 PM.  (There are a couple from in front of my house this morning.)

In this picture, the 210 Freeway, La Canada HS, and JPL are in the foreground.

AlanK

Hikin_Jim wrote:
From the Pasadena Star News:  Station Fire burns uncontrolled, more residents prepare for evacuation

The map of the burn area on the Star News Web site is greatly exaggerated.  I went up Ocean View a ways and the fire is nowhere near that far west on the south slopes.  This map is more accurate.
mattmaxon

This is some of the latest Modis data.....

Not good, any way you cut it

We'll have to wait for the smoke to clear to count our losses, some gains maybe as PO and pot farms will be trashed for a few years... Little solace

mattmaxon

Nice time lapse sequence!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anos...22043005955/show/with/3864982760/
cougarmagic

The Arroyo, Brown Mtn, Switzer, Bear Canyon, possibly Millard...my heart is broken.
Hikin_Jim

cougarmagic wrote:
The Arroyo, Brown Mtn, Switzer, Bear Canyon, possibly Millard...my heart is broken.
Eww.  Let's hope the canyon bottom trees survive.  Millard too, hunh?  It's gotten that far east?  Dang.   Sad
Sewellymon

as of 10PM, not into Millard yet. Much of the Brown Mt Fire Road towards the Ken Burton trail, yes. Who knows what tomorrow brings, tho...
TacoDelRio

Cool sequence.
mattmaxon

I checked with friends who have a house in Big Tujunga in La Paloma Flat

Jane wrote:
"The fire hasn't reached the pines in GF yet, but it is also in Silver and S on the Side (maybe down to 2600ft).

The sheriff  came by to warn about potential evacuations, but believes it won't happen unless we get unforeseen wind."

via cell phone on the 110







AlanK

I added more local pictures today.
Hikin_Jim

HPS peaks in closed area in and around the Station Fire:
09A  Mount Gleason (in the burn perimeter)
09B  Iron Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09C  Condor Peak (in the burn perimeter)
09D  Fox Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09E  Mount Lukens (in the burn perimeter)
10A  Mount Emma
10B  Old Mount Emma
10C  Pacifico Mountain
10D  Bare Mountain
10E  Granite Mountain #1
10F  Rabbit Peak #1 (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
10G  Iron Mountain #3
10H  Round Top
10I  Mount Hillyer
10J  Cole Point
11A  Josephine Peak (in the burn perimeter)
11B  Strawberry Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
11C  Mount Lawlor
11D  Barley Flats
11F  Vetter Mountain (LO)
12A  Mount Deception (in the burn perimeter)
12B  Mount Disappointment (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12C  San Gabriel Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12D  Mount Markham (in the burn perimeter)
12E  Mount Lowe (in the burn perimeter)
12F  Occidental Peak
12G  Mount Wilson
15A  Monrovia Peak
edenooch

Hikin_Jim wrote:
HPS peaks in closed area in and around the Station Fire:
09A  Mount Gleason (in the burn perimeter)
09B  Iron Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09C  Condor Peak (in the burn perimeter)
09D  Fox Mountain #2 (in the burn perimeter)
09E  Mount Lukens (in the burn perimeter)
10A  Mount Emma
10B  Old Mount Emma
10C  Pacifico Mountain
10D  Bare Mountain
10E  Granite Mountain #1
10F  Rabbit Peak #1 (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
10G  Iron Mountain #3
10H  Round Top
10I  Mount Hillyer
10J  Cole Point
11A  Josephine Peak (in the burn perimeter)
11B  Strawberry Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
11C  Mount Lawlor
11D  Barley Flats
11F  Vetter Mountain (LO)
12A  Mount Deception (in the burn perimeter)
12B  Mount Disappointment (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12C  San Gabriel Peak (in or at the edge of the burn perimeter)
12D  Mount Markham (in the burn perimeter)
12E  Mount Lowe (in the burn perimeter)
12F  Occidental Peak
12G  Mount Wilson
15A  Monrovia Peak


or the entire forest.........shit............damn arsonists!
are the trails from the neighborhoods to the front ranges still open?
edenooch

The latest views from mt washington stairs

Sad   The Dark mountain range below the fire is eagle rock ridge


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