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| cougarmagic |
Inspiration Point Pavilion standsI wouldn't tell the source of this photo, even if I knew (which I honestly don't).But it's a good photo. 
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| HikeUp |
That was close! | ||||||
| mattmaxon |
OH YEAH!
It still stands despite the minimal efforts of our illustrious Forest (dis)Service Thanks for the ray of hope Matt |
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| Zé |
wow! | ||||||
| HikeUp |
Josephine Peak web cam was back up and running the last 2 days but it seems to be dead again. It went dead early on in the fire (29th I think). | ||||||
| harper |
Re: Inspiration Point Pavilion stands
i just don't get it. why -- i mean WHY can't the same (or more) effort be expended on the living trees that is evidently going into saving structures that can be re-built? what *are* these priorities???? whose??? harper |
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| Layne Cantrell |
Re: Inspiration Point Pavilion stands
Honest question, is it because there is simply so much burning that they have to decide what to save? For my own personal reasons I hope the "structures" at Buckhorn are enough to save. Outhouses are hard to re-build. |
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| cougarmagic |
I completely understand your point. believe me, though no effort was made to save this structure. This is just an historical replica. The guys who put a bunch of work into rebuilding it several years ago are just happy to see it still there.
At this point, anything familiar that remains is a welcome sight. |
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| harper |
Re: Inspiration Point Pavilion stands
i am with you on that one. buckhorn is *it* for me, too. of course, outhouses with no forest in which to camp make no sense. but hey. h. |
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| harper |
oh i agree. it actually gives me *some* relief to see this pavilion still stand. and thank you for posting the picture! i keep thinking about that *enormous* pine down in cooper canyon... it must have seen fires before. and i hope to god (or someone, something) that it will survive. hh |
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| Layne Cantrell |
Re: Inspiration Point Pavilion stands
Buckhorn has been "it" for me and so many others so long I can't imagine there won't be a concerted effort to save it. I hope not to anger anyone by saying so, but Buckhorn is SO "it" for me that if is survives I'll take that as a major victory and adopt a "how cool is it to see the rest of the forest grow back" philosophy. If it doesn't survive, well, then all bets are off. Might just decide to stay indoors the rest of my damn life. |
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| Layne Cantrell |
That's another (somewhat) comforting thought. A lot of those old trees HAVE to have seen fire and survived. Hopefully by the time this thing rolls through our favorite campsite it'll be less intense and the larger, harder-to-replace trees will survive. |
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| cougarmagic |
Oh yeah - that enormous incense cedar. Many people are convinced it's a sequoia. That beautiful thing is sitting practically right in the water. Bark is probably a foot thick. Yeah, I'm not worried about that tree! |
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| harper |
ah, no, i don't know which incense cedar you mean 
which is a good thing -- because it means there's *another* enormous tree in there (and probably more than we know) that might stand a chance at surving -- yet another-- fire. no, i mean this HUGe jeffrey pine. when you come down the fire-road from cloudburst summit, past the camp and then enter the trail towards cooper canyon, on the right-hand side there eventually rises this enormous tree, several people around thick -- never seen a pine like it before. do you know which i mean? maybe that's not actually cooper canyon, but little rock creek? or? (i only discovered these lovely mountains a few years back and so might be off with the designations.) i feel bereft as it is -- and can only begin to imagine how those of you who've had decades with these mountans must feel ... harper |
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| dgrimreaper |
I'm with Harper. Even though I grew up in L.A., I didn't "find" the San Gabriels until a few years ago when a buddy talked me into climbing Mt. Baldy. I just hiked past Cooper Falls for the first time this spring and couldn't wait to go back since it was so nice down in there. I am sad that the mountains have burned so much, will be more so if they can't hold the line at Buckhorn, and upset that the decision makers have left this fire to burn and burn, and as Matt sated before, set back fires in other places while the front line raged (rages??) on. Truly disheartening. | ||||||
| harper |
far as i know he was *not* referring to any of the brave souls actually working up there -- although it's clear why you must have thought so. in a *different* thread and in a different conversation (but with the same people, i among them) he made a point of stating that he was talking about administrative (political and fiscal) decisions -- and *not* about anyone working in the front-lines. alas, if you have not read the other thread (the 9/8/09 "beast" thread, to be exact) you (or anyone) have no way of knowing this. just thought i'd let you know. harper |
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