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Layne Cantrell

Gettin' kind of a bad feeling here

Everyone is always quick to point out we're not out of the woods yet on this fire, yet it seems like everyone feels like it's pretty much over.

Today there was much more smoke on Wilson than at any point since the backburn operations. The update on the site said they were "probably" nothing to worry about unless we get a Santa Ana - which is due literally any time. I've also heard of a hotspot (wish I could find the link) on Waterman as well.

The demobilization of a ton of firefighters, a bunch of hotspots and impending winds (not to mention rising temps and lowering RH today and through the weekend) have me thinking this thing could get at least SOMEWHAT out of control again before containment is reached, or perhaps even after.

Are we falling asleep on this thing? Is the "party" really over? Lights out, eggs coolin', butter gettin' hard?

Would hate to see it flare up and eat something we've all filed away as "saved".... would be even more crushing after the quiet last week or so.
tarol

Containment has been pushed back to the 22nd.  Originally the 15th, then the 19th, now the 22nd.  It is anticipated to be hotter, drier, and increased winds early next week.  Check http://www.inciweb.org/incident/1856/ for updates.
Bill

You really can't say it's over until the weather breaks. Confused
There is such a large area of inacessable terrain with large smoldering trees and roots which could potentially be stoked up by a significant Santa Ana condition, that it would be difficult to say the jello's jigglin' until we get a good soaking.  That will be another issue.  Can you say El nino? Rolling Eyes
Layne Cantrell

Re: Gettin' kind of a bad feeling here

Quote:
Friday, 18 Sep 09, 4:45 pm PDT - There is concern that conditions on Mount Wilson may be going south over the next few days. A dozen or more smoke centers are still active low on the north slope of the mountain, and the forecast is for Santa Ana-like wind conditions turning on by Tuesday. This could result in re-activating fire from the smolder centers that would be blown up-slope on the mountain.

I expect to speak with the current Mount Wilson Fire Division supervisors Saturday morning and will report on their current thinking and plans.

Will this thing never end?!


From the Mt Wilson folks.

Awesome. Sad
Layne Cantrell

Bill wrote:
You really can't say it's over until the weather breaks. Confused
There is such a large area of inacessable terrain with large smoldering trees and roots which could potentially be stoked up by a significant Santa Ana condition, that it would be difficult to say the jello's jigglin' until we get a good soaking.  That will be another issue.  Can you say El nino? Rolling Eyes


At this point mudslides sound relatively good. Just no more fire.

I'm ready for a good rainstorm. C'mon - it rains in September sometimes, can't this be one of those Septembers? Please?

Maybe Chick Hearn's ghost can pull some strings and put this fire in the refrigerator for us.
harper

Re: Gettin' kind of a bad feeling here

Layne Cantrell wrote:
Quote:
Friday, 18 Sep 09, 4:45 pm PDT - There is concern that conditions on Mount Wilson may be going south over the next few days. A dozen or more smoke centers are still active low on the north slope of the mountain, and the forecast is for Santa Ana-like wind conditions turning on by Tuesday. This could result in re-activating fire from the smolder centers that would be blown up-slope on the mountain.

I expect to speak with the current Mount Wilson Fire Division supervisors Saturday morning and will report on their current thinking and plans.

Will this thing never end?!


From the Mt Wilson folks.

Awesome. Sad


what about "smolder centers" in the as yet uncontained areas up in the sg wilderness?
f*ck's sake.
this is making me into a nervous wreck...

hh
tarol

Red flag warning Monday evening through Wednesday night

http://forecast.weather.gov/shows...+CA&product1=Red+Flag+Warning
Layne Cantrell

Re: Gettin' kind of a bad feeling here

harper wrote:
Layne Cantrell wrote:
Quote:
Friday, 18 Sep 09, 4:45 pm PDT - There is concern that conditions on Mount Wilson may be going south over the next few days. A dozen or more smoke centers are still active low on the north slope of the mountain, and the forecast is for Santa Ana-like wind conditions turning on by Tuesday. This could result in re-activating fire from the smolder centers that would be blown up-slope on the mountain.

I expect to speak with the current Mount Wilson Fire Division supervisors Saturday morning and will report on their current thinking and plans.

Will this thing never end?!


From the Mt Wilson folks.

Awesome. Sad


what about "smolder centers" in the as yet uncontained areas up in the sg wilderness?
f*ck's sake.
this is making me into a nervous wreck...

hh


Tell me about it.

And yeah, what of the hotspots in the wilderness? Isn't that a threat too? Mt Wilson is just dripping with awesomeness, I get it, but what about the f'ing forest - arguably much awesome-er?
Layne Cantrell

tarol wrote:
Red flag warning Monday evening through Wednesday night

http://forecast.weather.gov/shows...+CA&product1=Red+Flag+Warning


Totally awesome.

Somewhere, whatever evil force is willing this fire to live is tapping its fingers together and noting, aloud, that "everything is going according to plan."

May the fire be weakened to the point that none of this matters when it gets here. F*cking weather.
Layne Cantrell

Per inciweb the containment date has been pushed back to Thursday.

Does this mean they had trouble tonight? Flare-ups? Or are they simply just not finished yet with the physical lines?
Hikin_Jim

Layne Cantrell wrote:
Somewhere, whatever evil force is willing this fire to live is tapping its fingers together and noting, aloud, that "everything is going according to plan."
Dude, you're scaring me.  Let's pray that this thing has really been put to bed.
tarol

The red flag warning has been extended through Thursday evening...  so the full containment has been pushed back to Thursday as well.
HikeUp

Mt. Wilson cam shows a haze - probably smoke and ash.

Lots of ash covering the cars here in Burbank.
Hikin_Jim

HikeUp wrote:
Mt. Wilson cam shows a haze - probably smoke and ash.

Lots of ash covering the cars here in Burbank.
Yeah, the wind is really kicking up the ash.  

Come to think of it the SG's really got their ash kicked...   Mr. Green
Layne Cantrell

Hikin_Jim wrote:
Layne Cantrell wrote:
Somewhere, whatever evil force is willing this fire to live is tapping its fingers together and noting, aloud, that "everything is going according to plan."
Dude, you're scaring me.  Let's pray that this thing has really been put to bed.


Know any good rain dances? Smile
Layne Cantrell

HikeUp wrote:
Mt. Wilson cam shows a haze - probably smoke and ash.

Lots of ash covering the cars here in Burbank.


As of about four today it looks really good. Hopefully whatever hotspot flared up in the Twin Peaks area (why does it always have to be so damn close to BUCKHORN?!?!?) has been dealt with.
TacoDelRio

Layne Cantrell wrote:
Hikin_Jim wrote:
Layne Cantrell wrote:
Somewhere, whatever evil force is willing this fire to live is tapping its fingers together and noting, aloud, that "everything is going according to plan."
Dude, you're scaring me.  Let's pray that this thing has really been put to bed.


Know any good rain dances? Smile


Wash your car!
Layne Cantrell

TacoDelRio wrote:
Layne Cantrell wrote:
Hikin_Jim wrote:
Layne Cantrell wrote:
Somewhere, whatever evil force is willing this fire to live is tapping its fingers together and noting, aloud, that "everything is going according to plan."
Dude, you're scaring me.  Let's pray that this thing has really been put to bed.


Know any good rain dances? Smile


Wash your car!


That's probably the funniest thing I've read in here. So true.

So true, in fact, that I'm washing my damn car tomorrow.
TacoDelRio

It always seems to work.

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