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edenooch

Frazier park peaks

Having all the boxes checked for the highest peaks in LA San Bernardino & Orange counties. I have yet to even take one hike in ventura. I figure why not take on all 4 of it highest in one shot...Has any one been to this area lately?
I suspect it would be very warm and and early start would be mandatory.
Hikin_Jim

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the four highest in Ventura County?

I've been up Pinos and Sawmill.  Also Reyes and Haddock.  Possibly Abel, but can't remember.

Good hiking out there.  It can be hot, but Pinos is above 8k and stays a bit cooler.
edenooch

Pinos, Sawmill Mountain, Grouse Mountain and Cerro Noroeste
HikeUp

Bob Burd's TR.
Terry Morse

I've done the hike from Pinos to Abel & back twice in the last month.  The trail is in excellent condition.  Lots of up & downs on the way.  There are ducks marking the use trails to both Sawmill & Grouse.

I figure it's about 13 miles RT.  Temps were comfortable both times.....shorts & t-shirt weather.
HikeUp

Oh, and aren't those peaks in Kern Co.?

I know, I know...get a map.
EnFuego

I think Mt Pinos, Frazier Mtn, and Reyes Peak are the three highest in Ventura County.  Not sure about the fourth.
Hikin_Jim

EnFuego wrote:
I think Mt Pinos, Frazier Mtn, and Reyes Peak are the three highest in Ventura County.  Not sure about the fourth.

edenooch wrote:
Pinos, Sawmill Mountain, Grouse Mountain and Cerro Noroeste
Oh, dear, we seem to have a difference of opinion.
EnFuego

Hikin_Jim wrote:
EnFuego wrote:
I think Mt Pinos, Frazier Mtn, and Reyes Peak are the three highest in Ventura County.  Not sure about the fourth.

edenooch wrote:
Pinos, Sawmill Mountain, Grouse Mountain and Cerro Noroeste
Oh, dear, we seem to have a difference of opinion.



Sawmill Mountain is the highest point in Kern County and Grouse Mountain is on the border of Kern County and Ventura County, but the peak itself actually lies in Kern County. Cerro Noroeste is also in Kern County.  It used to be called Mt Abel after some Kern County dude.

Either way, jsut climb all of them and you can check off the high points in Ventura County and Kern County.

edenooch - when you planning to knock the Ventura Peaks out?
Hikin_Jim

Re: Frazier park peaks

edenooch wrote:
Having all the boxes checked for the highest peaks in LA San Bernardino & Orange counties.
I'm curious if you have a list; it'd be interesting to see.  I know the top three for San Berdoo County: San Gorgonio Mountain (11,502'), Jepson (11,208'), and Bighorn (11,000'), but I've not thought about LA County, let alone OC.

I guess LA would be:  Baldy, West Baldy, and Baden-Powell.
Just looked it up.  I'm wrong.  From peakbagger.com:

Major Peaks of the San Gabriel Mountains

Ten Highest Peaks
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.Mount San Antonio10,0643068jbb
2.Pine Mountain96482941jbb
3.Dawson Peak95752918jbb
4.Mount Harwood95522911jbb
5.Mount Baden-Powell93992865jbb
6.Throop Peak91382785jbb
7.Mount Burnham89972742jbb
8.Telegraph Peak89852739jbb
9.Cucamonga Peak88592700jbb
10.Mount Hawkins88502697jbb
















Major Peaks of the San Bernardino Mountains

Ten Highest Peaks
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.San Gorgonio Mountain11,4993505jbb
2.Jepson Peak11,2053415jbb
3.Bighorn Mountain10,9973352Sad
4.Dragons Head10,8663312Sad
5.Anderson Peak10,840+3304+jbb
6.Charlton Peak10,8063294jbb
7.Shields Peak10,680+3255+jbb
8.San Bernardino Peak10,6493246jbb
9.Alto Diablo10,5633220jbb
10.Dobbs Peak East10,520+3206+ Sad

















Major Peaks of the Peninsular Southern California Ranges

Ten Highest Peaks
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.San Jacinto Peak10,8393304jbb
2.Jean Peak10,6703252jbb
3.Folly Peak10,480+3194+jbb
4.Miller Peak10,400+3170+jbb
5.Marion Mountain10,3623158jbb
6.Newton Drury Peak10,160+3097+Sad
7.Cornell Peak97502972jbb
8.Luella Todd Peak93562852Sad
9.Cienaga Peak91442787Sad
10.Tahquitz Peak88462696jbb


















Major Peaks of the San Emigdio Mountains

Ten Highest Peaks
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.Mount Pinos88312692jbb
2.Sawmill Mountain88182688 jbb
3.Sawmill Mountain-West Peak87492667Sad
4.Grouse Mountain85822616Sad
5.Cerro Noroeste8280+2524+Sad
6.Frazier Mountain8000+2438+Sad
7.San Emigdio Mountain74922284Sad
8.Tecuya Mountain7160+2182+Sad
9.Brush Mountain70482148Sad
10.Antimony Peak68482087Sad
















Major Peaks of the Ventura Ranges

Ten Highest Peaks
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.Reyes Peak75142290jbb
2.Haddock Mountain74312265jbb
3.Alamo Mountain73672245Sad
4.Thorn Point6920+2109+Sad
5.McDonald Peak68702094Sad
6.Sewart Mountain68412085Sad
7.Cobblestone Mountain67332052Sad
8.Hines Peak67162047Sad
9.San Rafael Peak6640+2024+Sad
10.San Guillermo Mountain66062014Sad
Child Range High Points
RankPeak NameftmClimbed
1.Reyes Peak75142290jbb
2.Alamo Mountain73672245Sad
3.Hines Peak67162047Sad
4.Monte Arido60101832Sad
5.Cuyama Peak5880+1792+Sad
6.Oat Mountain37471142Sad
7.Simi Peak2403732Sad
Rumpled

How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?
Is it just a secondary peak or something?
Hikin_Jim

Rumpled wrote:
How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?
Is it just a secondary peak or something?
Yeah, I noticed that.  And why isn't E SB Peak (10,691) on the list?  It's higher than SB Peak (by about 20').  I shot him an email yesterday.

He does say on the website that he knows there are some errors.  In most cases, he enters in raw data and then a computer program generates the tables, lists, etc.  

He replied as follows:
Quote:
Hi, Jim,

I took a look at the USGS map and it appears that the official name is "San Bernardino East Peak".  Since it is higher than "San Bernardino Peak", it is not a subpeak--you are right, in fact, one might consider the western peak to be a subpeak of the eastern one.

I have updated the name and subpeak status for the east peak:

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=1410

For now, I am not calling either one a subpeak, since they both have official names.  They both have very low prominence, so they might both be considered subpeaks.  But the one at the end of the ridge probably looks the most impressive from the valley, so it got the best name.

Thanks for pointing this out to me--appreciate the help.

--Greg
Webmaster, Peakbagger.com
I haven't asked him about West Baldy (yet), but it is on his website as a sub-peak of Baldy.  I don't quite understand his criteria.  He lists "wannabe" peaks like Miller and Alto Diablo, but he doesn't list West Baldy.  What gives?
Hikin_Jim

Re: Frazier park peaks

edenooch wrote:
Having all the boxes checked for the highest peaks in LA San Bernardino & Orange counties. I have yet to even take one hike in ventura. I figure why not take on all 4 of it highest in one shot...Has any one been to this area lately?
I suspect it would be very warm and and early start would be mandatory.
Good to meet you out on the trail yesterday, bro.
TacoDelRio

West Baldy FTW. Fewer people, end of more cool routes, nice shelter/trees.

Etc.
Hikin_Jim

Hikin_Jim wrote:
Rumpled wrote:
How come West baldy at 9988 didn't make the list?  Is it just a secondary peak or something?
Yeah, I noticed that.  And why isn't E SB Peak (10,691) on the list?  It's higher than SB Peak (by about 20').  

He lists "wannabe" peaks like Miller and Alto Diablo, but he doesn't list West Baldy.  What gives?
OK, here's what he's done:
1.  SB E Peak is now listed as a peak.
2.  Miller is no longer listed as a peak.  It is now a "sub-peak".
3.  Alto Diablo is no longer listed as a peak.  It is now a "sub-peak".

He did not upgrade West Baldy to a peak, but I asked him to consider it.  We'll see...
edenooch

West baldy isnt really a summit or peak....more likea point of interest......
it is more quiet and peaceful than baldy tho
TacoDelRio

It's enough of a peak. You don't typically see the top of Baldy from the city, but West Baldy is right there. Better views from it as well.
edenooch

oh well. every thing around here is a no go and i aint driving south or east for squat..........Ventura it is
Yamaya

Below may answer some of your questions.  They are 15 different reasons that Sierra Club once made it to SoCal 100 but later delisted.  (==> is my comment.)  They are not consitant.

below 5000'

condor sanctuary

drive-up of little value
==> Mt Wilson has a significant value, sure Einstein visited.

hard to find?
==> Time before maps and GPS?

Indian property

long drive-up
==> Local mountains only?

mining operations

minor bump
==> Mt Harwood must be a major bump.

overdeveloped
==> Thunder Mtn still has a room for development.

private property

shooting area

shooting area & heavy brush

shooting range

too difficult
==> Iron Mtn #1 is not the most difficult

too easy
==> That's what SAR hears all the time

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