Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: Overnighter Spots
Any good spots for an overnighter that you guys can recommend? I'm looking for something above 6000' since it's been hot lately.
I know about Cooper Canyon and Little Jimmy. There's also a good spot to camp at the confluence of the creek that comes down from Buckhorn and the creek that flows down Cooper Canyon. I've been to all of those lately and am hoping to do something different. Spots with water preferred.
I was planning on Fish Fork, but my friend can't leave until around 4:30 PM which is pushing it in terms of daylight on a trail that's faint and overgrown.
I've been thinking about Cedar Glen, but would rather not drive east on the 210 after work. The 210 E gets a little ugly during evening rush hour.
Any good suggestions? _________________ Hiking? Aw, gee, do I have to?
Though it was a bit buggy when I was there in May.
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Interesting. I know about the bench between Mine Gulch and Vincent Gulch (site of the old trail camp). It's an excellent camp site. I wasn't sure that I wanted to try for Mine Gulch Camp since it's about 4 miles in IIRC, although as I think about it, it would be a shorter drive than to Lupine CG (no dirt road), so I could get there earlier.
I didn't know about any campsites further up. Probably walked right by 'em before. Where exactly are they? I don't think this is the little stream that runs down some rocks and is a good water point. I think the good water point stream is just above the 5200' contour, yes? The sites you're talking about would be just before you have to cut around a rocky outcrop and almost all the way down into the stream bed in a "narrows" of sorts in Vincent Gulch I think. Do I have that correct? I think I do remember some sites there. I didn't really look around the last time I was there since Mine Gulch was my destination. Any decent spots where you mark the upper camp sites?
Thanks for the suggestion. _________________ Hiking? Aw, gee, do I have to?
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Overnighter Spots
Zé wrote:
Hikin_Jim wrote:
Any good spots for an overnighter that you guys can recommend? I'm looking for something above 6000' since it's been hot lately.
Wait, aren't you the one who gives these answers?
lol. Yes, but I freely admit that I don't know everything. There's a lot of experience and knowledge to draw from on this board. _________________ Hiking? Aw, gee, do I have to?
The earlier spots Matt is talking about have distinct use trails leading to them - which is why it's easy to end up there by mistake instead of on the main trail. The only clue you're going the 'wrong' way is that you start heading up a small canyon, instead of down the big one. Your "rocky outcrop" just below these sites sounds very familiar, and I think that's right. The sites are small - good for one or two tents, but not more, but are very secluded, shady, and nice. I think with a GPS waypoint where the arrow is pointing, or halfway decent map skills, you should find them no problem.
I'm trying to think of other spots for you - but you already know the good ones! West Fork camp is nice, and near water, but will be crowded, or buggy, probably both...There is a dirt road going east from Mt Mooney with a few pullouts that I always thought would be nice for car camping. No good hiking though... _________________ http://www.cougarmagic.com
How about Commanche Camp in Middle Fork of Lytle Creek? Maybe it's not 6ooo'... _________________ Ignorance is bliss. That must explain why I'm so happy!
How about Commanche Camp in Middle Fork of Lytle Creek? Maybe it's not 6ooo'...
Mike:
That's a wonderful camp. I really want to get back that way again. Beautiful spot with a lot of cedars.
However, I'm not going to be getting off work until 4:00 or so, and driving East on the 210 after work isn't my idea of fun. That, and I'd never get to Commanche before nightfall. I like setting up camp in daylight if I can. Commanche is a great recommendation, but I'll do that one when I can get free earlier in the day.
Thanks for the suggestion. Just makes me want to get back to Commanche all the more. _________________ Hiking? Aw, gee, do I have to?
The earlier spots Matt is talking about have distinct use trails leading to them - which is why it's easy to end up there by mistake instead of on the main trail. The only clue you're going the 'wrong' way is that you start heading up a small canyon, instead of down the big one. Your "rocky outcrop" just below these sites sounds very familiar, and I think that's right. The sites are small - good for one or two tents, but not more, but are very secluded, shady, and nice. I think with a GPS waypoint where the arrow is pointing, or halfway decent map skills, you should find them no problem.
O.K. I think I actually do remember those use trails and I think I even followed one for a bit before realizing it wasn't the trail. The trail takes a hard right at that point and goes around the aforementioned rocky outcrop. Hmm. This might be a good pick.
So far I've thought of:
-Little Jimmy
-Cooper Canyon
-"Confluence Camp" (in Cooper Canyon)
-Little Fish Fork
-Upper Fish Fork
-Vincent Gulch (Outcrop Camp?)
-Mine Gulch Camp
-Cedar Glen Camp
I think there are some spots to camp at Lamel Spring, IIRC.
I wonder if there are any spots by Lilly Spring? (although Lilly isn't a reliable spring and the trail is getting pretty hard to find)
If one removes the constraint of water, there are tons of places to camp like the saddle between Waterman and Twin peaks, the junction of the PCT and the trail down to S. Hawkins, and probably hundreds more if I put my mind to it. I just hate porting a lot of water.
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