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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Angeles Crest Highway (CA-2)  Reply with quote

Angeles Crest Repairs

I rode from Vincent Gap to Dawson saddle at the end of August and found the repairs nearly completed including all new asphalt. However there is a section half a mile from the gate that must have washed out  during the heavy thunderstorms and there is only one lane left and what is left is undercut badly. Since this section is on a very steep slope of Baden Powell the repairs may take a while. ( like maybe summer of '08)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the update, I am sure we are all eagerly awaiting the reopening of this highway,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took this picture on a ride of the closed ACH section on September 9. I posted a more complete report on another board (before this one got started).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Angeles Crest Hwy area Reply with quote

Hey folks,

Anybody been out there since the snow from last weekend?  I wonder if there's any ice on the road orso?  Will probably go for a quick jaunt up Waterman Sunday...

Thx!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: ACH Closure Reply with quote

We walked along the ACH from Dawson Saddle to Vincent Gap yesterday. The majority of the road has been repaved and there is working happening on 2 of the 3 washout sections. Hoever, the one MAJOR washout has no work going on and is going to need a bridge or something to fix. I am still positive and thinking that all this work means they are prepareing for opening this road in the not-so-distant future. Notice the last photo taken at a distance, the coulior above the major washout looks like it could be climbable with a little more snow and a few freeze/thaw cycles to get some ice (taco?)










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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's the couloir leading up to near or direct the summit of Throop, I have it marked as "Driveby Couloir", and it looks good.

I feel they'll open ACH up fully relatively soon, since they've fixed a bunch up, and I've been stopped by construction near Kratka Ridge before.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan,

That couloir goes up Baden-Powell and is less than a mile from the locked gate on the Wrightwood side
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tom! I think I'll give it a shot if things are still in. Anyone been up there recently?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The straight on shot of that gully makes it look steeper than it is.  The steepest part is just above the top of the gully and is 30-35 degrees.  

This is a fine route in the spring when you can crampon up before the sun softens it and then ski down on fine corn snow after the sun does its job.

 There are all kinds of fun chutes and gullys on the ridge between Powell and Throop.

 I usually hit these in the spring when the road is clear of snow when I can use my mountain bike to access the routes further up the road.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jim!

Any of them lead directly to the ridge that Throop and Burnham make up?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I,ve climbed and skied the gullys coming off of the summits of Burnham and Throop but not the ridge between.  It is steep but not much vertical.

Throop is interesting as it seems to catch more snow than the other peaks and hold on to it into summer some years.

A few years back I was able to ski top to bottom traversing a few dry spots in July!

It wasn't great skiing and the skis took a beating but it was fun to tell the story afterwards.
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Cool beans, thanks Jim!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TacoDelRio wrote:

I feel they'll open ACH up fully relatively soon, since they've fixed a bunch up, and I've been stopped by construction near Kratka Ridge before.


TDR, I hope you're right, but from the photos posted here and on the Whitney boards, that major washout is just that:  major.  It's going to take a big  project and lots of $$$'s to fix it.  If you have seen any of the governator's proposals ... well, let's just say don't hold your breath.  I sincerely hope I'm wrong (would reallly like to do that quick jaunt up Throop from Dawson saddle), but as the economy and therefore tax revenue goes into the tank, money for a non-priority hwy like ACH is unlikely to be forthcoming.
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Yeah, I'm not betting on it, just hoping. Route 39 would be nice as well, but that' hasn't been touched much since what, 1968?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they are planning on opening up the ACH as far as Dawson Saddle instead of keeping the closure at Islip Saddle. They've done all the road improvements and Dawson (if I remember correctly) is a relatively large turnout area that would make for a good parking/turn around area. Are there existing gates at Dawson (like the ones at Islip)? Are there any existing gates elsewhere along that stretch of ACH?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TacoDelRio wrote:
Yeah, I'm not betting on it, just hoping. Route 39 would be nice as well, but that' hasn't been touched much since what, 1968?

Rte. 39 went out in the winter of 1969, which was a messy one.  I was living in Azusa at the time and, in addition to what was going on in the Crystal Lake area, and there was a sea of mud covering much of Azusa Ave. and several other major streets.  I lived in NY from 1974 - 1994 but heard from friends out here that 39 as briefly re-opened sometime in the late 1970s. Nature took care of that.  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be great if they would reopen as far as Dawson Saddle.  There is a turn out there near that big Cal Trans maintenance shed.  It's not as good as at Islip, but I think it would work.

I have been kind of curious as to why they were spending so much time and money to fix up the closed part of the road.  Opening it to Dawson would explain the expenditure.

I've read on forums that 39 is passable by bicycle and on foot.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Angeles Crest Highway Reply with quote

Hello everyone, I just wanted to let you guys know that the Angeles Crest highway is now open to the gate just beyond the Snowcrest ski area, just in case anyone was wondering Smile . The Caltrans road info webpage seems to be inaccurate since it says the road closure is 3.3 miles past Newcomb Ranch, I was there yesterday and was able to drive way past that.
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Sweet! Thanks dude!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We hiked in about 3/4 mile (beyond the road closure) on Saturday morning and came out on Sunday afternoon. I will write  a trip report and post some pictures. Great snow and ideal weather...
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Mike P wrote:
We hiked in about 3/4 mile (beyond the road closure) on Saturday morning and came out on Sunday afternoon. I will write  a trip report and post some pictures. Great snow and ideal weather...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Angeles Crest Highway Reply with quote

Don't get your hopes up to fast regarding repairs on ACH near Vincent Gap. Cal-Trans will be building a bridge across the slide area. Expect the road to be closed until late 2009 or early 2010.
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Thanks for the info. Can you provide a source/link for this information?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Burd has posted some recent pictures of the ACH between Dawson Saddle and Vincent Gap.

Here is a view of the same area in Alan's pic above (but from the other side)...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent!  It'll be great to be able to hit Vincent Gap without going around to Wrightwood.  Actually, it will be great to be able to go to Wrightwood without taking on the 210 and 15 -- I see enough of them already!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this mean they're actually working on it?  I thought they were going to try to build a bridge.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FIX IT!

And R39 (yeah right).

Wanna be able to reach Twin Peaks and Islip Saddle without having to drive something like 120 miles, when it is literally just up the (closed and annihilated) road from me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: ACH closed at Cloudburst Summit??? Reply with quote

I wanted to hike Mt Waterman today - and got stopped by closed gates at that huge parking area, where the PCT crosses the road.  I think it's Cloudburst Summit - it was past Newcomb's, and maybe 4 miles before Buckhorn.  Anyone know what's up with that?  My calls to the forest service offices are, as usual, less than enlightening:  "Oh really?  I don't know anything about that!" was what the supervisors office said.  All the other offices just go to voicemail, and I know that will never get listened to...

Anyway, I want to know because I would like to try to hike there again tomorrow, but don't want to waste gas and time finding out!  Anyone have a friend at the Angeles FS?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm I can contribute no information but I will be pissed off if it is closed this weekend.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Caltrans site is usually good.  It only lists the closure from Islip Saddle to Vincent Gap.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No info on the ANF site or the CalTrans site. Hmm.

Just to help clarify where this is...I don't think you were at Cloudbusrt (but I could be mistaken). Cloudburst is about 1 mile before Buckhorn and the PCT does cross there, but there is not a huge parking lot. The huge parking lot (on the south side of the rode) is about 4 miles before Buckhorn and a little more than a mile past Three Points. The PCT does cross at the huge parking lot, and there is a gate across the road at the east end of the lot. So it looks like you could get as far as 1 mile or so past 3 points.

Can you say Twin Peaks?
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Location: Now I have a quote under my name, Taco.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: that's the place Reply with quote

Yes, HikeUp has it right.  That's the place.  Well,  I'm going to have to go up there tomorrow and find out the hard way.  I have a trail cam up there, hoping to see some bighorn sheep.  Tomorrow is my last day off for a while, and I am not a patient person...!

So I'll let you know if it's open again.
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this happens the day  i plan a trip up to there!

!!! Evil or Very Mad
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There is a post dated 9/3/08 on the wrightwood forums for Hwy2...

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There's CalTrans gate between Kratka, now Snowcrest, and Vista, now closed, at mile marker 60.23, one just past Cedar Springs at mm 61.45, the one at Islip at 64.10 and none until Vincent Gap at mm 74.80"

Not exactly sure if "Vista" is closed or the road is closed..and didnt say why whatever is closed is closed either.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.
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AW wrote:
There is a post dated 9/3/08 on the wrightwood forums for Hwy2...

"FYI
There's CalTrans gate between Kratka, now Snowcrest, and Vista, now closed, at mile marker 60.23, one just past Cedar Springs at mm 61.45, the one at Islip at 64.10 and none until Vincent Gap at mm 74.80"

Not exactly sure if "Vista" is closed or the road is closed..and didnt say why whatever is closed is closed either.


Map.
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.351...%20San%20Gabriel%20Mountains%20CA


PHOTOS OF MILEAGE MARKERS

A. East road from Buckhorn. (There's another marker on the other side of the road 59.00 which is exactly at the Buckhorn Road.)


B. Eagles Roost.


C. Mt. Williamson Trail Parking Lot.
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HikeUp wrote:
More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.


Are you estimating based the description above or you heard from other sources?
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HikeUp wrote:
More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.


Are you estimating based the description above or you heard from other sources?


Yes, estimating based on her description and the fact that she agreed with my earlier comments. Mile marker 54.02, just east of Three Points by about a mile. I know there is a gate there...she indicated she'll give an update tomorrow. Hope this is clear! Just trying to let everyone know how far they can get if the gate is still closed Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info...hopefully next time, I hop onto the correct trail to Twin Peaks Confused  Sux that the road is closed..big time....I wonder what the deal is.
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I'll take a photo of the gate & parking area, so you can all share in the frustration.
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Sorry, I didn't make it up there today.  I tried calling a few ranger stations again this morning, but couldn't get any information.  I didn't have the heart to spew greenhouse gases all day just to see the closed gate again.  THe best guess is that CalTrans is working on the road.  It didn't seem like a small thing - like, if there was a small rockslide, they might put up smaller barricades while they clear it, but this gate was CLOSED.

So I'd suggest anyone heading up this weekend have a Plan B hike in mind...
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!

I was gonna do Waterman and Twin Peaks from Buckhorn. i guess I could still go from three points, maybe just to Twin Peaks and back Sad
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JMunaretto wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOO!

I was gonna do Waterman and Twin Peaks from Buckhorn. i guess I could still go from three points, maybe just to Twin Peaks and back Sad

You gonna miss the game!  If you ain't down there by 12 noon you never gonna get in! Very Happy
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Gonna watch it - on the tv. After hiking
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Seriously, what's a decent plan B? My girlfriend is demanding elevation gain. Starting from Three Points is just gonna be too low of a gain/mile, and would take too many miles to get some decent elevation. I'm not sure what else around there (that isn't after this road closure) that could work. Eitherwise I would have to not chance it at all and go hike Ontario or something  Mad
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JMunaretto wrote:
Seriously, what's a decent plan B? My girlfriend is demanding elevation gain. Starting from Three Points is just gonna be too low of a gain/mile, and would take too many miles to get some decent elevation. I'm not sure what else around there (that isn't after this road closure) that could work. Eitherwise I would have to not chance it at all and go hike Ontario or something  Mad

What ya do is start at 3 points and do a loop going up to Cloud Burst Summit and then over to the trail that goes up to Mt Waterman and then either go up to Twin Peaks or just go back to 3 points. And I bet that road will be open by Saturday anyway. JUST GO! ( Hey J. How long can you balance on one foot with your eyes closed?)  Laughing
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Hey wait a minute. Go do Skyline! She wanted elevation gain right? Well?  Very Happy I bet Perry would go out of his way to show you up. Maybe ask him.

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If you're looking for 750'/mile or more, then you're fucked if that gate stops you. Unless you want to go cross country, then you could head up the west ridge of Waterman from Three Points instead of taking the trail to the Waterman-Twin peaks Saddle. Taking the PCT from the potentially closed gate won't get you much gain per mile, but you can do a lot of distance...say, hit Pallett and Will Thrall ...that'd be a hell of a long distance roller coaster. Get a map!!!!!! Wink
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this ruins my weekend....
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Dudley Heinsbergen wrote:
this ruins my weekend....


Screw that shit...PLAN B! Always have an out!  Very Happy

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